"I suspect that, with the SGI's continual process of re-inventing itself, we represent way more potential trouble for them than we're worth. After all, they already still count the members who left in their membership statistics, unless those members demand in writing that their personal information be removed, and even if they say they've done that, who's to say they really did??
Those of us, especially us old-timers, have experiences that today's SGI would rather forget. Look how everybody forgot all about former SGI-USA General Director George M. Williams after Ikeda kicked him to the curb - his name was stricken from all publications, he wasn't even mentioned by name in the New Human Revolution even in a passage featuring him. When Mr. Williams passed away in Dec. 2012, there was no mention at all in any SGI source. No memorial service. NOTHING.
You can't find any references to former leaders anywhere in any SGI publication. The only recurring name is Ikeda's. The fact that the Soka Gakkai has consistently had such monster attrition rates may well have played into the decision to write up the Soka Gakkai's history as a "novelization" rather than a history; the only real names in there are Toda's, Makiguchi's, and dead priests'. Also the decision to disguise and conceal identities and events by changing details, splitting one person's details between two or more characters, and combining aspects of several people into a single character. With people quitting right and left, this would have been a necessary development, because if it had been written as a
history, people would have been asking, "Hey! What happened to all these leaders we're reading about??" Like we did with that Makiguchi disciple former General Director of the Soka Gakkai, Shuhei Yajima, who nobody hears about any more O_O
Given that SGI continues to tweak its image and doctrines, perhaps we represent too much trouble. SGI is well rid of us, because WE remember the rank intolerance of SGI, which is now trying to pull the wool over outsiders' eyes with its "interfaith" nonsense. The intolerance and bigotry of SGI are still there - if there's any doubt, just glance at "Soka Spirit" (the "We hate Nichiren Shoshu" dept.) and you'll see. The existence of Soka Spirit completely contradicts SGI's own charter but SGI doesn't seem to see any problem with that. We would point that out. If SGI members were to somehow accomplish the heroic feat of luring us back to a meeting, would we like what we saw there, or would we cause trouble by asking too many questions and pointing out the utter lack of integrity in rewriting all the organization's doctrines, tenets, and priorities, since SGI has been progressively transforming into the Ikeda Cult?
No, they probably don't make any effort to seek us out. Around a million members have left SGI in the US alone. Shouldn't be too hard to track a few of them down. But the leaders know there's no point. We left for good reasons. That's why we never went back. They can delude themselves that everybody who ever tries SGI will be happier in SGI, they can tell each other that as much as they like, they can believe it, but considering that they've lost about 30 times as many members as they now have, probably best to just let those sleeping dogs lie." -- BlancheFromage
" They can delude themselves that everybody who ever tries SGI will be happier in SGI, they can tell each other that as much as they like, they can believe it, but considering that they've lost about 30 times as many members as they now have, probably best to just let those sleeping dogs lie." -- BlancheFromage
ReplyDeleteWell, Blanche I think you might want to reconsider your advice here. What one does with the information you have shared depends on whether or not the practitioner of Nichiren's Buddhism is determined to attain Buddhahood and avoid complicity in slander of the Law. Or rather, Blanche, it seems that perhaps you have missed some key teachings in Nichiren's writings.
In "The Essentials For Attaining Buddhahood", Nichiren writes:
"The nirvana Sutra states; "If even a good monk sees someone destroying the teaching and disregards him, failing to reproach him for his offense, then you should realize that that monk is betraying the Buddha's teaching. But if he ousts the destroyer of the Law, reproaches him, or punishes him, then he is my disciple and a true voice hearer." (WNDi, p. 747)
What do you think, Blanche? Is what you have shared here indicative of disregard or slander of the Law?:
"Given that SGI continues to tweak its image and doctrines, perhaps we represent too much trouble. SGI is well rid of us, because WE remember the rank intolerance of SGI, which is now trying to pull the wool over outsiders' eyes with its "interfaith" nonsense. The intolerance and bigotry of SGI are still there - if there's any doubt, just glance at "Soka Spirit" (the "We hate Nichiren Shoshu" dept.) and you'll see. The existence of Soka Spirit completely contradicts SGI's own charter but SGI doesn't seem to see any problem with that."
Or are YOU, or anyone who points this out to SGI and gets the *boot* the one who is deserving of punishment for *betraying the Buddha's teaching?
Nichiren continues: "You should etch deeply in your mind the two words "see" and "disregard" in the phrase' sees someone destroying the teaching and disregards him. " (and 1 p.747)
If you get *the boot* from SGI, should you count your own blessings and disregard what this means?
Nichiren states :"To hope to attain Buddhahood without speaking out against slander is as futile as trying to find water in the midst of fire or fire in the midst of water. " (Ibid)
So which is it, Blanche?
1) you do not have a clear enough understanding of Nichiren's teachings to identify slander of the Law?
2) You don't practice with the goal of attaining Buddhahood?
3) You do not believe you have any responsibility for protecting and upholding the Law and the Buddha's teachings?
or "has the poison penetrated so deeply" based on your affiliation with and complacency toward the SGI, that your mind no longer functions-- ??
~Katie
Blanche is by no means a Nichiren Buddhist.
DeleteBlanche was never a Nichiren Buddhist. She WAS an SGI or Ikeda School Buddhist. Hatred for Nichiren is the life state of hell. Ikedaism leads one to hell, either in or out unless one begins to embrace the Lotus Sutra, Nichiren and the correct Three Treasures.
Delete1). Yes
ReplyDelete2). Yes
3). Yes
I have been rebuking Blanche for several years. Her hatred for Nichiren knows no limits. However, her many remonstrations with SGI demonstrate the viewpoints shared by many people who left the org. She also DEMONstrates how SGI breeds evil men and women.
Why should she love Nichiren?
DeleteBecause hating Nichiren leads to hell. SGI hates Nichiren by altering his teachings. Blanche just plain hates Nichiren and not only hates Nichiren but announces publicly that she hates Nichiren. For her own sake, we warn her and others who hate Nichiren that this leads to the life state of hell.
DeleteWow. And who the hell made Nichiren the Buddhist Jesus?
DeleteObviously you never read the Lotus Sutra. I suggest you read Chapter 10. To expose the faults of a votary is worse than defaming the historical Buddha. After you study even a little, then I will take you seriously. And you call yourself Buddhistnichiren. I don't think so.
DeleteI read the Lotus Sutra. I used to be a Nichiren Buddhist. I just don't know how to change my email name. And to be brutally honest, I no longer practice as Nichiren instructed because I found Nichiren to be intolerant, and so consumed the arrogant belief that his practice was the True Buddhism that he called for the priests of other Buddhist schools to be, as Nichirenists explained it, deprived of livelihood. That's wrong. And I don't need a Sutra written hundreds of years after Shakyamumi's death to tell me that that's wrong.
Deleteits true blanche has lot her faith. if she ever had any. but at least she see's how absurd the gakkai and ikeda are. like most , she does not clearly see the reason why. cheers blanche.
ReplyDeletelost her faith..... .
DeleteSorry for you, exchanging rocks for jewels. Do you know that besides the Ashoka rock edicts, the Lotus Sutra is the oldest Buddhist manuscripts (writings), older than the Pali Agamas.
ReplyDeleteSays who? Because all of the Mahayana sutras came about after Shakyamumi's death
DeleteRichard Gombrich is perhaps the greatest scholar of pali and sanskrit Buddhists texts today and is far more accomplished even then the late Thomas William Rhys David (please compare the sheer volume of their works. Here is what Gombrich has to say.
ReplyDelete"Modern editors of the Pali Canon, however, have generally contented themselves with trying to establish a textus receptus or ‘received text’. Let me explain. Most of our physical evidence for the Pali Canon is astonishingly recent, far more recent than our physical evidence for the western classical and biblical texts.
While talking of this, I want to take the opportunity to correct a mistake in something I published earlier this year. In Professor K. R. Norman’s splendid revision of Geiger’s Pali Grammar, published by the Pali Text Society (Geiger, 1994), I wrote an introduction called ‘What is Pali?’ (Gombrich, 1994a). In that I wrote (p. xxv) that a Kathmandu manuscript of c.800 A.D. is ‘the oldest substantial piece of written Pali to survive’ if we except the inscriptions from Devnimori and Ratnagiri, which differ somewhat in phonetics from standard Pali. This is wrong. One can quibble about what ‘substantial’ means; but it must surely include a set of twenty gold leaves found in the Khin Ba Gôn trove near Śrī Ksetra, Burma, by Duroiselle in 1926-7. The leaves are inscribed with eight excerpts from the Pali Canon. Professor Harry Falk has now dated them, on paleographic grounds, to the second half of the fifth century A.D., which makes them by far the earliest physical evidence for the Pali canonical texts (Stargardt, 1995). -- Richard F. Gombrich
"In 1934, based on his text-critical analysis of Chinese and Sanskrit versions, Kogaku Fuse concluded that the Lotus Sūtra was composed in four main stages. According to Fuse, the verse sections of chapters 1-9 and 17 were probably composed in the 1st century BCE, with the prose sections of these chapters added in the 1st century CE. He estimates the date of the 3rd stage (ch. 10, 11, 13-16, 18-20 and 27) to be around 100 CE, and the last stage (ch. 21-26), around 150 CE.[6][note 1]
According to Stephen F. Teiser and Jacqueline Stone, there is consensus about the stages of composition but not about the dating of these strata.[8]
Tamura argues that the first stage of composition (ch. 2-9) was completed around 50 CE and expanded by chapters 10-21 around 100 CE. He dates the third stage (ch. 22-27) around 150 CE.[9]
Karashima proposes another modified version of Fuse's hypothesis with the following sequence of composition:[10][11]
Continued...
ReplyDeleteChapters 2–9 form the earliest stratum.
The first layer of this stratum includes the tristubh verses of these chapters which may have been transmitted orally in a Prakrit dialect.
The second layer consists of the sloka verses and the prose of chapters 2-9. Chapters 1, 10–20, 27, and a part of chapter 5 that is missing in Kumarajiva's translation.[12][note 2]
Chapters 21–26 and the section on Devadatta in chapter 11 of the Sanskrit version. Translations into Chinese Three translations of the Lotus Sūtra into Chinese are extant.[15][16][17][note 3]
The Lotus Sūtra was originally translated from Sanskrit into Chinese by Dharmarakṣa´s team in 286 CE in Chang'an during the Western Jin Period (265-317 CE).[19][20][note 4] However, the view that there is a high degree of probability that the base text for that translation was actually written in a Prakrit language has gained widespread acceptance.[note 5] It may have originally been composed in a Prakrit dialect and then later translated into Sanskrit to lend it greater respectability.[22]
This early translation by Dharmarakṣa was superseded by a translation in seven fascicles by Kumārajīva´s team in 406 CE.[23][24][25][note 6] According to Jean-Noël Robert, Kumārajīva relied heavily on the earlier version.[26] The Sanskrit editions[27][28][29][30] are not widely used outside of academia.
The Supplemented Lotus Sūtra of the Wonderful Dharma (Tiān Pǐn Miàofǎ Liánhuá Jīng), in 7 volumes and 27 chapters, is a revised version of Kumarajiva's text, translated by Jnanagupta and Dharmagupta in 601 CE.[31]" - Wikipedia
Therefore, according to this reliable information, the earliest Sanskrit and prakrit texts of the Lotus Sutra are older than the Pali texts that the Hinayana Buddhists arrogantly claim to be the only authoritative texts of what the Buddha actually taught.
You're right about what the scholars said. Howbeit research also revealed that the Sutra was written hundreds of years after Shakyamumi's passing. Shakyamumi was born 5th-4th century BCE.
DeleteTientai and Nichiren taught that the Lotus Sutra was not taught for the people of the Former Day (~1000 years after the Buddhas passing). Why would anyone believe that such capable monks who could memorize thousands of lines of oral texts were incapable of keeping secret or preserving a teaching meant for a later time? These were highly disciplined men, unlike our present day politicians and heads of state who have successfully kept secrets [documents] for hundreds or even thousands of years. This is hardly an anomaly but rather a misunderstanding of the greatness of the Buddha and his followers.
DeleteSo Shakyamumi didn't teach the Lotus Sutra himself
DeleteYou should read what I said again. Shakyamuni Buddha taught the Lotus Sutra. If you are referring to what I said in Nichiren Reddit, be specific.
DeleteWake up Buddhistnichiren90. and stop calling yourself a Nichiren Buddhist.
ReplyDeleteAs I mention earlier, I have long stopped calling myself a Nichiren Buddhist. I just don't know how to change my email name. But I do know that neither I nor Blanche need to take counsel from an intolerant man who threatened people to convert others to his form of Buddhism; a man who considered himself so damn correct he recommended the priests of the other Buddhist schools lose their livelihood; a man who never took responsibility when people went around converting and ended up losing their jobs and peace of mind. We have no need to adhere to man like that nor should anyone else.
DeleteAnd SGI didn't feed my derision of Nichiren. Rather it was Nichiren himself. How else am I supposed to feel about a man who tells his disciples to convert or fall into hell for complicity to slander?
ReplyDeleteYou sir couldn't live a day like Nichiren for the sake of the Dharma. Who really cares what you think? He suffered 5 major persecutions and the minor persecutions number in the thousands. He was hated by men, women, and children and by the Samurai and the the men and women of the ruling class. He lived in huts without useful shelter in the freezing cold of the mountains and by the sea. He survived on grass, bracken, and roots for years on end. Thanks to Nichiren 30+ million people around the world chant Namu Myoho renge kyo. He never killed so much as an ant or mole rat. Really, who cares what you think and yes, your slander will lead you to the lower Four Worlds in lifetime after lifetime until you finally wake up and attain Buddhahood. Better sooner than later.
ReplyDeleteApparently you do because you responded. You can't prove that people have multiple past lives, nor can you prove that some people are wandering in the four worlds because of something they did in their past life. As for living like Nichiren, I wouldn't even want to. It wouldn't be worth it. No Dharma should require that much drama to be spread. And if you forgot, there were those who found Nichiren's methods to be aggressive, so they decided to teach the Lotus Sutra in a more peaceable manner.
DeleteBottom line, thanks to Nichiren 30+ million people chant the Daimoku. How do you account for a 4 year old child to hear a complex musical piece one time, never had a piano lesson, and can reproduce it, near perfectly or another child who can play several different instruments also, never having taken a music lesson? How do you account for a newborn having an atypical mole not known to be genetically transmitted in the exact same place as a deceased friend's or relative's, the same mannerisms, likes and likeness? How do account for retained and perfect memories from past lives with an impossibility of having researched the said persons, incidences, and experiences? Even the lowly Dalai Lama succinctly explains reincarnation:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.dalailama.com/messages/retirement-and-reincarnation/reincarnation
If no Dharma would require that much drama to be spread, you are forgetting the Nine Great Persecutions of the Buddha:
(1) At the instigation of a group of Brahmans, a beautiful woman named Sundarī spread rumors to the effect that she was having an affair with Shakyamuni.
(2) Brahmans mocked Shakyamuni when a maidservant gave him an offering of stinking rice gruel in a Brahman city.
(3) Agnidatta, a Brahman in Vairanjā, invited Shakyamuni and five hundred disciples to his mansion, but was so completely absorbed in the pursuit of pleasure that he neglected to make them any offerings. For a period of ninety days, they had nothing to eat but oats used as horse fodder.
(4) King Virūdhaka of Kosala killed a great many members of the Shākya clan, to which Shakyamuni belonged.
(5) When Shakyamuni entered a Brahman city, the king forbade the people to make offerings or listen to him.
(6) A Brahman woman named Chinchā tied a tub to her belly under her robe and claimed that she was pregnant by Shakyamuni.
(7) Devadatta pushed a boulder from atop a cliff on Shakyamuni in an attempt to crush him. It missed its mark, however, injuring only his toe.
(8) Once, around the time of the winter solstice, an icy wind rose and continued to blow for eight days. Shakyamuni and his disciples were particularly vulnerable since they were away from the monastery and had no permanent shelter. Shakyamuni protected himself from the cold wind by wearing three robes made of discarded rags, the only garments permitted a monk.
(9) King Ajātashatru loosed a drunken elephant and set it upon Shakyamuni and his disciples in an attempt to have them trampled to death.
Anyone who is to spread the Dharma as a votary of the Lotus Sutra is certain to encounter the Three Obstacles and Four devils.
1. So why is it that those who taught the Lotus Sutra in more peacefully didn't end going through Nichiren's drama? 2.
DeleteThosee wonders you mentioned don't prove the validity of namu myoho renge kyo. 3. Show me in a Shakyamuni biography outside of Nichiren's words where he dealt with that kind of drama.
You really don't know much about Buddhism do you. I wouldn't be so arrogant. The biography of the Nine Great Ordeals is found in many places, including the Tripitaka and The Treatise on the Great Perfection of Wisdom. No ordeals? Pursuing enlightenment, the Buddha first practiced severe asceticism before recommendaing a more moderated way...still he had to undergo the Nine Great Ordeals. You think attaining Supreme and Perfect Enlightenment or being a Buddha or a Bodhisattva of the Earth is easy?
ReplyDeleteEasier than what Nichiren contended with. I expect it to be more like Ryokan. BTW attacking me doesn't change the fact you didn't answer my questions.
DeleteWhich question? Easier? Everyone, even the Buddha has their own karma and in revealing the Lotus Sutra will ALWAYS encounter the armies of Mara (the King Devil of the Sixth Heaven). In the Case of the Buddha, King Ajatashatru and other evil kings.
ReplyDeleteThese questions.
Delete1. So why is it that those who taught the Lotus Sutra more peacefully didn't end going through Nichiren's drama? 2.
Show me in a Shakyamuni biography outside of Nichiren's words where he dealt with that kind of drama
Excellent question. Have you read Chapter 13, Exhortation to Hold Firm, Chapter 20, The Bodhisattva Never Despise, or Chapter 25, the All-Sidedness of the Bodhisattva Regarder of the Cries of the World?
ReplyDeleteNichiren Daishonin is the Supreme Votary of the Lotus Sutra because he realized a bodily reading of the Lotus Sutra. He held firm as the Bodhisattvas Mahasattvas discussed in Chapters 13 and Chapter 20. For Example, realizing the passages of being struck with swords and staves and being hated by both priests and laymen. He realized the protection of the Bodhisattva Regarder of the Cries of the World:
In this Chapter we learn of the real benefits of the Lotus Sutra, those realized by its Supreme Votary. Here the Buddha describes the perils from which Avalokitesvara will save those who have faith in the Lotus Sutra and these perils are repeated in the verse section [although they do not exactly match those in the prose section]. Please note how Nichiren Daishonin validates the Lotus Sutra by living the promises of the Sutra.
Those who have faith in the Lotus Sutra and Lord Shakyamuni Buddha, in the following situations will be free from harm like Nichiren who lived nearly every line of the Lotus Sutra literally:
PROSE SECTION
1. If a man falls into a great fire, he will not burn. [unlike High Priest Nikkyo of the Nichiren Shoshu]
2. If he is carried away by a great wave, he will find a shallow place. [exactly as Nichiren Daishonin during the Izu exile]
3. If he enters the sea in search of riches and a black wind carries the ship to the realm of the Rakushasa, he will be saved. [Nichiren Daishonin on his voyage to Sado]
4. If he is about to be murdered, swords and weapons will break. [Nichiren Daishonin at Tatsunokuchi]
5. If hordes of yakshas and Rakushasa try to do him harm, they will not even be able to see him. [Nichiren Daishonin as he escaped from Seichoji and Matsubagayatsu]
6. Regardless of guilt, if he is in fetters or stocks, they will be broken. [Nichiro in prison]
7. If he is full of lust, he will be cured of it. [Nichiren remained a true celibate priest throughout his life]
8. If bandits find travelers with precious gems on a dangerous road, the travelers will be saved. [Nichiren Daishonin at Komatsubara]
9. If full of anger, he will lose it. [Nichiren towards his faithful disciples]
10. If full of folly, he will be cured of it. [Nichiren Daishonin having chanted the Nembutsu]
Continued....
ReplyDelete11. If a woman wants a son, she will bear one.
12. If a woman wants a daughter, she will bear one.
VERSE SECTION
1. If a man is pushed into a Pit of fire, the pit will turn into a pool. [Nichiren Daishonin's escape from his burning hut during the persecution at Matsubagayatsu,]
2. If he is afloat on a great sea in which there are fish, dragons, and ghosts, waves will not drown him. [Izu exile]
3. If he is pushed off the peak of Mount Sumeru, he will dwell in space like the sun. [Nichiren's (Sun Lotus') repeated exiles and banishments]
4. If he is chased down a diamond mountain by an evil man, he will not be harmed. [Nichiren Daishonin's escape from Tojo Kagenobu on mount Kiyasumi]
5. If he is surrounded by bandits waving swords, their thoughts will be transformed to kindly ones. [Tatsunokuchi persecution]
6. If he faces execution, the executioner's sword will break. [Tatsunokuchi]
7. If he is in a pillory with his hands and feet in stocks, he will gain release. [Nichiro]
8. If someone harms him through spells, curses, or poisons, the victim can send them back to plague their authors. [A). Nichiren was given food laced with poison. Before he ate it, he laid it down on a tree stump. A dog came by, took a few bites, and became violently ill. B). Those who suffered untoward deaths for persecuting Nichiren Daishonin]
9. If he encounters Rakushasa, dragons, or ghosts, they will not harm him. [Nichiren encountering evil men on a daily basis, many of whom became his disciples]
10. If he is surrounded by beasts with sharp claws and teeth, they will flee.
11. If confronted with snakes or insects breathing fire, the sound of one's voice will dispel them.
12. If threatened with thunder, hail, or lightning, he will remain dry. [Nichiren in his many dilapidated huts].
13. If one has misfortunes and troubles, one can be rescued. [Nichiren on a daily basis]
14. If one’s destiny is the world of hells, ghosts, or beasts, it can be changed. [Nichiren, according to Nichiren himself, in the Opening of the Eyes, The Selection of the Time, and Letter from Sado, for example]
15. The pains of birth, old age, sickness, and death can be alleviated. [Nichiren Daishonin as our example].
16. Darkness will be dispelled by the light of wisdom, which also subdues winds and flames. [Nichiren Daishonin subduing the Mongols with the Great Wind]
17. The agony of civil disputes on the battlefield will be avoided. [Komatubara persecution]
In the verse section, perils thirteen through sixteen are written in a different form from the earlier ones and are more comprehensive and general.
The seventeenth peril is written in the same manner as the earlier ones but contains two distinct perils, as does the sixteenth.
Between the prose and the verse section's lists of dangers, is a question by Aksayamati Bodhisattva about how Kannon moves within the world. The Buddha replies that the bodhisattva takes many different forms, as does Fine Sound Bodhisattva, described in chapter twenty-four. Kannon (Avalokitesvara) can appear as a Buddha, pratyekabuddha, or Sravaka; as Brahma, Indra, Lsvara, Mahesvara, Mahesana, or Vairsavana; as a minor king, rich man, householder, official, Brahman, bhikshu, Bhikshsuni, upasaka, Upasaka, wife of a householder, wife of a rich man, wife of an official, wife of a Brahman, boy, or girl; or as a god, dragon, yaksha, gandharva, Asura, garuda, kinnara, mahoraga; as a human, nonhuman, or Vajrapani. Aksayamati then presents a necklace to Kannon, who accepts and divides it, giving one part to Prabhutaratna and the other to Sakyamuni. The chapter ends with a statement that eighty-four thousand of the assembly embarked on the path to enlightenment.
His Lotus Sutra defectors fared a hell of a lot better. They were not assaulted, reviled, exiled, or damn near decapitated.
DeleteYou don't even make any sense. Nichiren's goal in life was to have many people chant Namu Myoho renge kyo and he realized that goal. What have you accomplished in life? Do you think anyone who has realized their dreams hasn't had to overcome severe resistance, competition for ascendancy? Overcoming laziness, fatigue, pain, the crab effect, others trying to bring you down, jealousy. Only, in attaining Buddhahood or even Bodhisattvahood, resistance is many times more severe.
ReplyDeleteI get it. You don't believe in Nichiren nor Nichiren Lotus Sutra Buddhism. One bit of advice. Be careful who you revile.
Gaslighting thy name is Mark Rogow. By the way, I understand that realizing goals involve struggle and hard work. I'm a musician. However, I never had to worry about getting my head cut off for playing Chopin or J. S. Bach correctly. And if Nichiren's final days are an example of what Buddhahood looks like, I will gladly pass. Being secluded on a mountain, abandoned, freezing, and suffering from diarrhea is not a good representation of Buddhahood.
DeleteBeethoven had to overcome deafness. The truly greats were often hated by their contemporaries and most of these men were merely realizing the World of self Realization. How much more difficult to realize the Worlds of Bodhisattva and Buddha. You have abandoned the faith, how could you possible understand the greatness of Nichiren.
ReplyDeleteAd hominem thy name is Mark Rogow. 1. Beethoven may have had deafness, but he didn't have people trying to decapitate him. 2. Realizing Bodhisattva and Buddhahood does not and should not entail that much drama. Contending with personal flaws is enough. 3. Greatness of Nichiren? William Still and Harriet Tubman were greater than Nichiren.
DeleteDo you believe in reincarnation? We do. Therefore, to experience suffering in this lifetime as a price to pay for quintillions of quintillions of lifetimes free of suffering.
ReplyDeleteNot anymore. Because there isn't any objective proof.
DeleteYou Buddhistnotnichiren90 merely embrace one of the wrong views from the perspective of Buddhism:
ReplyDeleteThree Wrong Views from the Flower Garland [Kegon or Avatamsaka] Sutra
"In this world there are three wrong viewpoints. If one clings to these viewpoints, then all things in this world are but to be denied. First, some say that all human experience is based on destiny; second, some hold that everything is created by God and controlled by His will; third, some say that everything happens by chance without having any cause or condition.
If all has been decided by destiny, both good deeds and evil deeds are predetermined, weal and woe are predestined; nothing would exist that has not been foreordained. Then all human plans and efforts for improvement and progress would be in vain and humanity would be without hope.
The same is true of the other viewpoints, for, if everything in the last resort is in the hands of an unknowable God, or of blind chance, what hope has humanity except in submission? It is no wonder that people holding these conceptions lose hope and neglect efforts to act wisely and to avoid evil.
In fact, these three conceptions or viewpoints are all wrong: everything is a succession of appearance whose source is the accumulation of causes and conditions."
No that's what Nichiren Buddhism does. Because in Nichiren Buddhism, karma determines one's estate in life
DeleteThe Flower Ornament Sutra is embraced principally by the Flower Ornament sect, many Zenmen, and Shingon followers.
ReplyDeleteOnly SGI teaches that karma is the determinant of everything. Nichiren Lotus Sutra Buddhhism teaches,for example that there are the following categories of illnesses:
“There are six causes of illness: (1) disharmony of the four elements" "Earth" (solid organs and bone) "wind" (pulmonary); "fire (thermoregulation) and water (disease of the blood). (2) improper eating or drinking; (3) inappropriate practice of seated meditation (for example, neglecting sleep or eating for long meditation sessions; (4) attack by demons (bacteria, virus, fungi); (5) the work of devils depression, bipolar schizophrenia; and (6) the effects of karma (the most serious diseases not cured with either western nor eastern medicine, for example many types of metastatic cancer, advanced COPD).”
As I've shown, once again, you really no little about Buddhism, let alone Nichiren Lotus Sutra. You keep coming here and I enjoy your presence and I very much hope you will wake up.
You are not a very perceptive individual and I'm sure you didn't read my proofs that the Buddha did indeed preach the Lotus Sutra. The Buddha preached and the monks memorized the Lotus Sutra and all the Sutras. Evewn today, there are priests who have the entire Lotus Sutra memorized. When writing became available, the sutras were written down in prakrit and then sanskrit, If what you say is true, then the Theravadan sutras too are not the Buddha's preaching because the Lotus Sutra predates the Agamas.
ReplyDeleteBy the way, you are no longer welcome here. Nichiren was a Bodhisattva Mahasattva. Your view of Nichiren and the Lotus Sutra proves that you are deluded. Namu Myoh renge kyo.
I actually did read your proofs. They just fail to explain how Shakyamumi could teach the Lotus Sutra when it came about centuries after his death.
DeleteSimple. Monks with excellent memmories. This video will blow your mind. GI reddit Nichiren and scroll down to This Video Will Blow Your Mind. Several of these priests have the Lotus Sutra memmorized and with extremely fast chanting, in 1 chant almost half of the Sutra. Even some teenagers have the q'uran memmorized. Then there are those with photographic memmories.
ReplyDeleteInteresting. Within the span of one day, if you verbally relay a message to one person with the expectation for it to reach 59 people, by the time the message reaches the 50th person, the message is completely different. More times than not. Why should we expect any difference when this message is verbally relayed within the span of a century?
DeleteNot GI reddit Nichiren but only reddit Nichiren
ReplyDeleteYou already demonstrated your utter disdain for the Lotus Sutra. Nichiren and I. Why should I continue to allow you to defame us?
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