tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post5791437597172035141..comments2024-03-24T20:41:19.447-05:00Comments on Eagle Peak Blog: Dropping the character MuMark Rogowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05176132114346404556noreply@blogger.comBlogger114125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-86160350107596689752016-09-11T10:43:32.504-05:002016-09-11T10:43:32.504-05:00Wonderful! Wonderful! Wonderful!Wonderful! Wonderful! Wonderful!Mark Rogowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05176132114346404556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-18897031413669713502016-09-10T01:47:07.796-05:002016-09-10T01:47:07.796-05:00Happy 😊 that you have found peace with your famil...Happy 😊 that you have found peace with your family. My family has has experienced tremendous change for the good since we removed Nichikans Gohonzon and enshrined the Denpo gohonzonNoelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-32053432897820211922016-09-09T12:26:02.443-05:002016-09-09T12:26:02.443-05:00>>"Sometimes being kind is more importa...>>"Sometimes being kind is more important than being right"<<<br /><br />I completely understand your reasoning because, I too, believed "kindness" was key to converting my husband to Nichiren's Buddhism. However, 17 years and 5 months of *peaceful practices* full of kindness and supported by forbearance did not cause my husband to awaken to the truth about SGI, much less correct faith and practice of Nichiren's teachings. <br /><br />5 months of *forceful practices* based on shakubuku, which I encountered myself on Eagle Peak , penetrated my delusions regarding my own faith and my practice--which had been influenced by *human revolution/value creation teachings of the SGI*. Those teachings led to the hell of incessant suffering-- and it was not until I began to chant correct daimoku that I was able to see Ikeda clearly and his teachings as slander. <br /><br />SGI is indeed a collection of arrogant false sages, they are the third powerful enemy, Noel. I have experienced the depth of suffering--for me, even peripheral involvement and *kindly leaving them strictly alone*, but the experience of breaking my husband's attachments to his 28 year indoctrination to *mind only* teachings and a material -gain/'personal -comfort focus practice is a joyful thing- inexpressible in mere words. <br /><br />Throughout the past 17 years and 5 months, I have been criticized and even mocked here in my home by my former SGI Boston District leader husband, which was infinitely more painful than enduring your often times demeaning remarks here on Eagle Peak. I could say that engaging you here actually helped me more effective deal with my husband-- as I began to ALWAYS discuss these matters with scripture in hand. He could not deny what he read here and what we had *lived through* . I did not desist-- at any time, and only gained more confidence as I felt my own life transforming on the deepest levels. My *bodily reading* of Nichiren's teachings on rebuking slander was the key. <br /><br />It is the Law we are trying to uphold-- just how precious one believes Myoho-renge-kyo really is how deeply one believes in the Lotus Sutra and Nichiren's writings is fundamentally the basic requirement for receiving blessings and appreciating the true benefit of literally, and bodily following Nichiren. And thus will appreciate Nichiren's counsel "On Practicing The Buddha's Teachings" even more: <br /><br />"Understand then that the votary who practices Lotus Sutra exactly as the Buddha teaches will without fail be attacked by the three powerful enemies."<br /><br />The vital message is this:<br /><br />"Life flashes by in but a moment. no matter how many terrible enemies you may encounter, banish all fears and never think of backsliding. Even if someone were to cut off our heads with a saw, impale our bodies with lances, or shackle our feet and bore them through with a gimlet, as long as we are alive, we must keep chanting Namu-myoho renge-kyo, Namu-myoho-renge-kyo."<br /><br />The one essential phrase, the essential practice is what matters first and foremost, for those who follow Nichiren. I am sharing my experience to attest to the profound meaning of taking what Nichiren writes, literally. I did not suggest or insist my husband chant in harmony with me, but only that he chant the words exactly as Nichiren wrote them. For the first time in his 28 year practice, Kevin practiced faith based on the correct doctrine.<br /><br />The Great Teacher Chang-an says "One who destroys or brings confusion to the Buddha's teachings is betraying them. If one befriends another person but lacks the mercy to correct him, one is in fact his enemy." He also says, "One who rids the offender of evil is acting as his parent."<br /><br />What's kindness or love got to do with it?? Nothing, Noel-- only one's stedfast faith in Myoho-renge-kyo and belief in Nichiren matter.<br /><br />Na-mu-myo-ho-ren-ge-kyo !!<br /><br />~Katie <br /><br /><br /><br /> <br /><br />Katie Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688676386085212349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-89817712729869700472016-09-09T06:27:40.706-05:002016-09-09T06:27:40.706-05:00
Na mu myo ho ren ge kyo
Namu myoho renge kyo
Na...<br /><br />Na mu myo ho ren ge kyo<br />Namu myoho renge kyo<br /><br />Nam myo ho ren ge kyo<br />Nam myoho renge kyo<br /><br />Myo ho ren ge kyo<br />Myoho renge kyo<br /><br /><br />Na mu myo ho len ge kyo<br />Namu myoho lenge kyo<br /><br />Nam myo ho len ge kyo<br />Nam myoho lenge kyo<br /><br />Myo ho len ge kyo<br />Myoho lenge kyo <br /><br />Sometimes being kind is more important than being rightNoelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-10317802823317763502016-09-09T06:06:59.579-05:002016-09-09T06:06:59.579-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Noelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-74466238062436172482016-09-09T06:01:10.005-05:002016-09-09T06:01:10.005-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Noelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-17846761444644608272016-09-09T02:32:10.807-05:002016-09-09T02:32:10.807-05:00I am relived to know the Gohonzon has not yet been...I am relived to know the Gohonzon has not yet been sent.[ I will email you my new address]. My husband and I are moving this weekend. It is perfect timing, actually, since Kevin has converted to Nichiren Lotus Sutra Buddhism, this Gohonzon will be reverently and joyfully received into our new home with the deep gratitude. <br /><br />"Therefore, when you chant the daimoku of the Lotus Sutra, you should be aware that it is a more joyful thing than for one who was born blind to gain his eyesight and see his father and mother, and a rarer thing than for one who has been seized by a powerful enemy to be released and reunited with his wife and children,." <br /><br />Such has been my experience since my husband began to chant Namu-myoho-renge-kyo and open his eyes to the truth about SGI. <br /><br /> After nearly 18 years in this prison of slander, bound by my commitment in faith and marriage to a SGI MD district leader, I found "Eagle Peak", where I learned the practice of shakubuku,-- ("the forceful practices", quite an eye opener for me), and based on correct faith and steadfast resolve, I have lead my husband to practicing faith in Myoho-renge-kyo.<br /><br />Despite agonizing ordeals I am hesitant to recount, I have sought refuge only in the Lotus Sutra, devoting my life in every sense to upholding Nichiren's teachings and repaying my debt of gratitude to Shakyamuni Buddha.<br /><br /> I am praying that the benefits I have received, that are not unlike being released from a powerful enemy and reunited with my husband and children, return to you and your family with my deep gratitude for your steadfast faith and dedication to denouncing the enemies of the Lotus Sutra. <br /><br />Na-mu-myo-ho-ren-ge-kyo <br />Namu-myoho-renge-kyo,<br />With deep respect,<br />~Katie Katie Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688676386085212349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-68229079447583752222016-09-08T20:27:06.759-05:002016-09-08T20:27:06.759-05:00Perfect Katie. My daughter's visiting tomorrow...Perfect Katie. My daughter's visiting tomorrow [my wife doesn't drive] and I asked my wife to please send off the requested Gohonzons. I have been working > 40 hours a week despite my illness and had no time to get to the post office.Mark Rogowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05176132114346404556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-44299689627836770072016-09-08T14:41:49.819-05:002016-09-08T14:41:49.819-05:00Thanks, Mark. I don't want to discount how dif...Thanks, Mark. I don't want to discount how difficult it is to sort out what and who accord exactly with the writings of Nichiren, but I also want to acknowledge how on this one site, "Eagle Peak" the means for determining these things is demonstrated; it is ongoing; it is *work* in process-- always progressing.<br /><br />I look forward to the inevitable future, when the longest comment threads are dialogues amongst true followers of Nichiren, sharing more relevance , or actual proof of living the Sutra with a *bodily reading* --<br /><br />I am not surprised that the disruptions and the resulting obstruction to dialogues focused on *seeking the Law* are frequent, as that accords with Nichiren's teachings, but I am hopeful that our continued dedication to responding first and only with "scriptures in hand" will transform these devilsh functions right before the eyes of readers who have yet to appreciate the true benefit of Nichiren's Lotus Sutra Buddhism. <br /><br /> I think that, AS members of the , "Treasure of the Order" [Nichiren and his followers] continue to encounter each other , learn each others names and appreciate each other's unique contributions and qualities, we begin to assist each other in profound ways. My appreciation for true disciples, like Shinkei and votaries, like yourself give real meaning to the *concept* of repaying debts of gratitude. Like all sincere actios, one must experience the gratitude before one realizes she has such a debt...<br /><br />Best,<br />~Katie <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Katie Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688676386085212349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-83324191370995611752016-09-08T07:56:52.414-05:002016-09-08T07:56:52.414-05:00We don't follow Nichiren Shu priests. We follo...We don't follow Nichiren Shu priests. We follow Nichiren and priests who actually do follow Nichiren, living the Sutra with a bodily reading.Mark Rogowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05176132114346404556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-51569880802928577842016-09-08T03:11:06.766-05:002016-09-08T03:11:06.766-05:00Only Nichiren qualifies as a teacher, imo because ...Only Nichiren qualifies as a teacher, imo because he *lived* faith and wrote all about it. I strongly recommend you start and stick with Nichiren's writings- rely on what is written in the sutras, not discriminative thinking.<br /><br />You can follow this one, Noel :-)<br /><br />Good luck!<br />~KatieKatie Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688676386085212349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-72984058396869892992016-09-08T01:56:47.193-05:002016-09-08T01:56:47.193-05:00And especially your opinions Katie And especially your opinions Katie Noelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-17324856307556921482016-09-07T19:25:31.912-05:002016-09-07T19:25:31.912-05:00Nichiren wrote : "Namu-myoho-renge-kyo"
...Nichiren wrote : "Namu-myoho-renge-kyo"<br />Nichiren did not write primers on phonetics or beats.<br />Nichiren did not teach *chant same rhythm with others to create unity"<br />Nichiren taught the *ONE* mind of faith--not the one voice of many chanting together in 'harmony"<br /><br />I follow Nichiren.<br /><br />No words written by Nichiren-- no topic to discuss here-- WHY? Because this is the major doctrine of Nichiren's Buddhism; this is the ESSENTIAL teaching/practice of the Lotus Sutra.<br /><br />Your attitude toward that is as off-putting as your periodic slights toward me-- BUT, ultimately, Noel, it is you who has an issue believing Nichiren exclusively, without adding your own spin or taking cues to do this by priests, and other sources-. You lack faith, you will suffer--moreso if you keep jabbing at me because I do have faith. I think I will exit this thread on this note:<br /><br />Hope you set about *learning* faith-<br /> It is difficult to teach faith. <br />Only Nichiren qualifies as a teacher, imo because he *lived* faith and wrote all about it. I strongly recommend you start and stick with Nichiren's writings- rely on what is written in the sutras, not discriminative thinking.-- and least of all the *opinions of others*...<br /><br />Best,<br />~Katie <br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Katie Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688676386085212349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-16785318879419183762016-09-07T17:05:16.957-05:002016-09-07T17:05:16.957-05:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB3fTV74yco
Prie...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CB3fTV74yco <br /><br />Priests Chanting Namu myoho renge kyo with 6 beat in time with the stick hitting a wooden object<br /><br />The 2 kanji characters for Namu get 1 beat <br /><br />Now Na-mu is usually two beats, and the “u” is aspirated. That is how the “hiki” daimoku is chanted, with 7 beats. <br /><br />For a 6 beat mantra, as often used in shodai, we treat Namu as if it is drawn with one kanji. The ‘u’ becomes unaspirated. It may be voiced as in Namu {one beat}, or unvoiced as in Nam’.<br /><br /><br />Domo-ari-ga-to<br />Dom’-ari-ga-to<br />Dom’-ari-ga_t<br /><br /><br />There are several places in Gon-gyo {sutra reciting} where two syllables get one beat. Usually, the two syllables that get one beat are drawn with one kanji. For example, Hon Matsu Ku Kyo To. Matsu is drawn with one kanji and gets one beat. The “u” in matsu is unaspirated. Some Japanese voice the u, as in matsu {one beat]. Others unvoice it as mats’. It can also be contracted as “Hon Ma_ku_kyo to.” But the u in matsu is never aspirated, that would make it two beats {ma-tsu}. We never read it as Ma-tsu.<br /><br /><br />Sometimes, for the sake of cadence, two syllables drawn with one kanji get just one beat. The example that I recall is that Sha Ka Mu Ni is drawn with 4 kanji, but read with only 2 beats — Shaka-Muni. <br /><br />This also occurs with the two {2} kanji for Nan & Mu, when they become the elided Nam’ or a one beat Namu, to create a six {6} beat mantra for shodai.<br /><br />Here are two sound files of the six {6} beat Odaimoku with the “u” voiced but ‘unaspirated’; the mantra is Namu-myo-ho-ren-ge-kyo: Noelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-40823606026750504342016-09-07T16:28:35.529-05:002016-09-07T16:28:35.529-05:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCyKKhOrOqE
Liste...<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCyKKhOrOqE<br /><br />Listen good from this Nichiren Shu priest how to correctly pronounce the Japanese reading of the Chinese (Kanji) characters - Shindoku reading <br /><br /><br />By the way since we are on the topic of Daimoku<br />pronunciation the Japanese pronunciation of Renge is in between R and L but closer to L. We can say Lenge instead of Renge. It is as the Japanese do when they touch the palate with the tongue when they pronounce La Li Lu Le Lo not Ra Ri Ru RE Ro this is a mistake as is Namu Myoho Renge Kyo which should be Nam Myoho Lenge Kyo from what I have so far been able to ascertain from a non bias standpoint with information presented. <br /><br />It is easier to pronounce Lenge than Renge as it rolls off the tongue and is easier to pronounce Nam Myoho Lenge Kyo than it is to pronounce Namu Myoho Renge Kyo. Why labour under unnecessary burden if it isn't necessary, isn't life already tough enoughNoelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-16398849106731943272016-09-07T16:17:06.806-05:002016-09-07T16:17:06.806-05:00https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCyKKhOrOqE
Liste...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCyKKhOrOqE<br /><br />Listen good from this Nichiren Shu priest how to correctly pronounce the Japanese reading of the Chinese (Kanji) characters - Shindoku reading Noelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-41941550511808557202016-09-07T16:05:07.594-05:002016-09-07T16:05:07.594-05:00My revised answer to Mark is equally relevant to y...My revised answer to Mark is equally relevant to you, Mudpie and to who ever this concerns<br /><br /><br />Mark; "We just can never harmoniously chant together if you chant Nam Myoho renge kyo and I chant Namu Myoho renge kyo. Do you think that's what Nichiren desired?"<br /><br />Yes we can harmoniously chant together if you chant Namu Myoho renge kyo and I chant Nam Myoho renge kyo with 6 beats correctly like native Japanese speakers do but we can never harmoniously chant together if you start to Moo like a cow like native English speakers do<br /><br />Nichiren's concern was that we Chant 7 characters or the 5 characters. <br /><br /><br />Namu myoho renge kyo or Myoho renge kyo<br /><br /><br />You, Shu and Kempon Hokke are the ones that have been making the big deal over MOO. <br /><br /><br />Nichiren Shu and Kempon Hokke just want to be different from NST so they emphasise MU like a trademark<br /><br /><br />The NST and SGI haven't criticised the way that Namu is pronounced during 6 beat Daimoku by Native English speakers to my knowledge but it is high time this mater is brought to the attention of those concerned <br /><br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtazdZrQ9_g <br /><br />This is the unfortunate result of what happens when Nichiren Shu and Kempon Hokke Native English speakers chant together. They are all chanting Namu myho renge kyo in harmony with each other<br /><br />Chant Namu or Nam in one beat chant Na-mu with 2 beats. If I chanted Nam Myoho Renge Kyo and you chant Namu Myoho Renge Kyo continuously in unison at the same time using 6 beats there will be discord because English speakers do not know how to chant Namu the correct way as native Japanese speakers do<br /><br />Nichiren would of chanted the 7 characters in a 6 beat format and the 7 characters in the 7 beats ( As Nichiren Shoshu do) at different times is more feasible rather than he only chanted a 6 beat or a 7 beat Daimoku all the timeNoelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-12110036375844419452016-09-07T15:02:49.345-05:002016-09-07T15:02:49.345-05:00There is still hope left for you Katie
MINNEAPOLI...There is still hope left for you Katie<br /><br />MINNEAPOLIS (The Borowitz Report) – Scientists have discovered a powerful new strain of fact-resistant humans who are threatening the ability of Earth to sustain life, a sobering new study reports.<br /><br />The research, conducted by the University of Minnesota, identifies a virulent strain of humans who are virtually immune to any form of verifiable knowledge, leaving scientists at a loss as to how to combat them.<br /><br />“These humans appear to have all the faculties necessary to receive and process information,” Davis Logsdon, one of the scientists who contributed to the study, said. “And yet, somehow, they have developed defenses that, for all intents and purposes, have rendered those faculties totally inactive.”<br /><br />More worryingly, Logsdon said, “As facts have multiplied, their defenses against those facts have only grown more powerful.”<br /><br />While scientists have no clear understanding of the mechanisms that prevent the fact-resistant humans from absorbing data, they theorize that the strain may have developed the ability to intercept and discard information en route from the auditory nerve to the brain. “The normal functions of human consciousness have been completely nullified,” Logsdon said.<br /><br />While reaffirming the gloomy assessments of the study, Logsdon held out hope that the threat of fact-resistant humans could be mitigated in the future. “Our research is very preliminary, but it’s possible that they will become more receptive to facts once they are in an environment without food, water, or oxygen,” he said. - Andy Borowitz <br />Noelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-4286454876006443602016-09-07T13:46:13.630-05:002016-09-07T13:46:13.630-05:00No passages of Nichiren's writings. i wonder w...No passages of Nichiren's writings. i wonder why Nichiren didn't focus on phonetics and beats ? Are you implying Nichiren would leave out an "Essential" aspect of the ESSENTIAL practice he was teaching for the 10,000 years of mappo?<br /><br />C'mon, Noel, that is absurd!!<br /><br />You are employing *dsicrimniative* thinking and analyzing with your shari hotsu life condition-- Nichiren did write about that ! <br /><br />Your disbelief has gone beyond incorrigible-- it is insufferable !<br /><br />You lost this debate., and your *shari hotsu* pride is keeping you from appreciating the *correct* techies you encountered and practicing them!<br /><br />BTW, I take seriously every reason women cannot attain Buddhahood through any other sutra or practice; I totally get all of my weaknesses of mind and resolve that are my own karmicc impediments-- which is why I will remain steadfast when to comes to the Lotus Sutra and Nichiren's teaching, his writings that I take *literally*. It is my one hope, Noel, -- and I continue to see actual proof of the improvements in my mind, perceptions, actions that serve to depend my faith. I, too have shari hotsu aspects, which serve to make doubly determined to be steadfast in faith-- <br /><br />I am not preaching to you from a lofty place, Noel-- this is a moment to moment struggle sometimes-- but I know, my life knows the difference between correct and incorrect. I am not insisting you take my word, either. though I do hope at some point you realize I do have compassion for you, but I firmly believe, through my own experience tha *strict* is the eye opener, not warm fuzzies! <br /><br />Chant the 7 characters with mindfulness for each, character ; create the rhythm that sounds and feels best to you-- Do this consistently morning and evening, day and night for 120 days-- and then, let's talk again :-)<br /><br />Best,<br />~Katie <br />Katie Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688676386085212349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-4556722811971191672016-09-07T10:02:05.576-05:002016-09-07T10:02:05.576-05:00Mark; "We just can never harmoniously chant t...Mark; "We just can never harmoniously chant together if you chant Nam Myoho renge kyo and I chant Namu Myoho renge kyo. Do you think that's what Nichiren desired?"<br /><br />Yes we can harmoniously chant together if you chant Namu Myoho renge kyo and I chant Nam Myoho renge kyo correctly like native Japanese speakers do but can never harmoniously chant together if you start Mooing<br /><br />Nichiren's concern was that we Chant 7 characters or the 5 characters. You, Shu and Kempon Hokke are the ones who Have been making the big deal over MOO. <br /><br />You just want to be different from NST so by emphasising MU you make moo your trademark<br /><br />Noel; Chant Namu or Nam in one beat chant Na-mu with 2 beats. If I chanted Nam Myoho Lenge Kyo and you chant Namu Myoho Renge Kyo continuously in unison at the same time there will be discord<br />because English speakers do not know how to chant Namu the correct way as native Japanese speakers do<br /><br />I believe Nichiren chanted the 7 characters in a 6 beat format and the 7 characters in the 7 beats formats ( As Nichiren Shoshu do) at different times is more of a likelihood rather than just one or the other. Noelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-21748159797279616882016-09-07T09:51:31.486-05:002016-09-07T09:51:31.486-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Noelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-38994536035318639942016-09-07T09:27:40.125-05:002016-09-07T09:27:40.125-05:00Na-mu-myo-ho-ren-ge -kyo NST,SGI,NS,KH 7 beats
N...Na-mu-myo-ho-ren-ge -kyo NST,SGI,NS,KH 7 beats<br /><br />Namu- Myo-ho- Renge- Kyo NS,KH 6 beats<br /><br />Nam-Myo-ho-renge-kyo NST,SGI 6 beats<br /><br /><br />If the beat is the same we can chant daimoku together the correct way as native Japanese speakers do <br /><br />There is oneness in the beat and pronunciation of Nam and Namu when it is chanted by Japanese speakers<br /><br />Forget about achieving oneness from some mooing nichiren shu, kempon hokke and Independent English speakers that do not know how to chant Namu the correct way as native Japanese speakers do. <br /><br />"This also occurs with the two {2} kanji for Nan & Mu, when they become the elided Nam’ or a one beat Namu, to create a six {6} beat mantra for shodai.<br /><br />Here are two sound files of the six {6} beat Odaimoku with the “u” voiced but ‘unaspirated’; the mantra is Namu-myo-ho-ren-ge-kyo:"<br /><br />They do not know what they do even though they think they do and resist correction because of their pride about something that they think they are experts about but know little aboutNoelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-62025496776283724452016-09-07T08:29:31.530-05:002016-09-07T08:29:31.530-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Noelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-3122175282086775892016-09-07T07:37:25.101-05:002016-09-07T07:37:25.101-05:00The phonetics and beats aren't my invention. Y...The phonetics and beats aren't my invention. Your unfounded comments are evidence of your foolishness and slanderous nature <br /><br />Not funny 😒 but rather shameful <br />Noelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13502699520823314375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2070186063250309253.post-84492781921438023672016-09-07T02:30:10.042-05:002016-09-07T02:30:10.042-05:00Yet no words by Nichiren on phonetics and beats-- ...Yet no words by Nichiren on phonetics and beats-- Just Chant the 7 characters or the 5 characters--. The phonetics and beats are your musings, Noel. That wraps it up for me.<br /><br />You intejerct, you rationalize and until you take Nichiren's warnings about your what you add, subtract multiply and divide regarding his teachings, you are looking pretty foolish suggesting Nichiren warned you about "people like me"<br /><br />Too funny...<br />~Katie Katie Higginshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688676386085212349noreply@blogger.com