No "arousing to accept" here

http://www.zoominfo.com/CachedPage/?archive_id=0&page_id=573108522&page_url=//www.urbandharma.org/bcdialog/bcd1/bcmalibu.html&page_last_updated=2012-12-03T14:19:02&firstName=Al&lastName=Albergate

http://www.urbandharma.org/bcdialog/page2.html