SGI dragging its members into the primal swamp

corboy: About the shitting in ones diapers during mass rallies -- Its a bonding ritual, too as well as a secret, one usually cannot disclose to ones family and acquaintances. Robert Twigger, in his book Angry White Pyjamas, told that the workouts were so harsh at the Yoshinkan Aikdo dojo, that barfing was common. So very common that a protocol was in place. You did not leave the room. Instead, you barfed into your workout clothes and continued to practice kata, which meant you stewed in your own barf and your practice partners got it rubbed in, too. But...Twigger felt able to write about this. Some of the sitting in ones shit may be part of the military/indoctrinational ethos. 

Buddha, so the story goes, had been trained not only as a prince but as a warrior and had practiced harsh bodily austerities only to find that trashing his body did not assist him in waking up. And he did not teach a method of indoctrination, either. 

More about shitting ones pants: Anyone who has been a hard core martial artist, bicycle racer, member of a biker club and yes, combat veterans will know all about this. They wont laugh at you. 

But its something to be kept secret from most civilians. In a perverse way it is a bonding ritual--driven by the afflictive primitive emotions that Buddha did not inflame but instead taught us to apply insight to -- not stir up further. Humans are already primitive enough, without a dictator dragging us further into the primal swamp. 

Bikers: Read that part of the initiation ritual in some clubs is when a newbie has earned his colors (the vest with the club emblem on the back) all the members piss on his new vest. The person who wrote this said its common for bikers to pee in their own jeans without stopping to take a leak. Gotta get used to it, so turn it into part of the intiation ritual. 

During Tour de France, one champion was ill with diarrhea and insisted on riding and shat in his shorts whilst racing. And kept right on. 

From what I have read, shitting and having diarrhea in ones clothes is part of the process during military basic training and in battlefield conditions. Karl Marlantes, in his book, What It Is Like To Go To War, tells how he was desperate to get onto a helicopter and get some much-needed R & R he was entitled to. He and his men had been in Vietnam, in the jungle for weeks, months. US Marine practice means keeping clean and organized, but in the jungle, this was impossible. Some men were so covered in fungal infection that they went naked because doing so was less uncomfortable than wearing underwear which chafed their tortured hides. Marlentes lefted off in the helicopter, and described his own condition - utter filth and his trousers were foul with diarrhea (everyone got sick out there) --and, he confesses, - cum. 

A survivor of the seige of Khe Sanh, Ernest Spencer USMC- ret, wrote in Welcome to Vietnam, Macho Man, that being filthy became a badge of honor. You were a combat soldier, the real deal. SPencer would fly to staff meetings at Da Nang covered in filth and refuse to shower before the meeting. It proved he wasnt a Rear Echelon M****r F****R Part of the contempt Spencer and his Khe Sanh troops had for the Air Force pilots was that the latter were always clean. Real warriors were filth pigs. In the shit meant being in the war zone. So Ikeda and his goons are using those rallies to turn people into shock troops, whether its door to door leafletting or bullying anyone inside the org who has doubts or less than scintillating vitality. 

Me:Brings back memories of my father who was a Master Sgt in the Big Red 1. He told me a story that for forty days and forty nights, he never took off his clothes or his boots because he was either attacking or running away from the enemy day and night. When he took off his boots and outer clothes, his socks and underwear had disintegrated, he had trench foot and sores all over his body, as you describe. 

I would call SGI "army light". Certainly, they are Buddhism lite.