Yesterday:
"Recently studying the Gosho "The Blessings of the Lotus Sutra" a particular passage struck me in avery different way than previous readings of this Gosho.Nichiren states :" In the same way, one who chants the daimoku as the Lotus Sutra teaches will never have a twisted mind. for one should know that, unless the mind of the Buddha enters into our bodies, we cannot chant the daimoku."
Pondering this again-- I reflect on a major difference between those who chant "Namu" as Nichiren wrote and those who argue the point and cling to "Nam"-- an easier recitation for them. The difference I refer to is the perception of Shakyamuni as "The Buddha"--Those who chant "Namu" seem to have unwavering resolve regarding the True Buddha. Could it be that IF one is not clear on the treasure of the Buddha," the mind of the Buddha will NOT enter one's body"--- and therefore one cannot chant correct *daimoku*??
I just wanted to share an observation-- because I have found the barrier to propagate correct daimoku amongst SGI members is the same as convincing them that Shakyamuni is the True Buddha-- not Nichiren as they were taught by Nichiren Shoshu.
Very interesting you mention *renge* in this context--. For SGI, the cause is discarding the True Buddha, Shakyamuni-- and the effect is not being able to hear, recite or benefit form the wonderful Law, Myo-ho-renge-kyo.
Who would have thought that something so simple could be so badly distorted??-- and that the correction of such an obvious distortion is one of the *nine difficult acts*??
~Katie
Today:
I have yet to find a single example of Nichiren personally defaming another who chants the daimoku, saying just that they can and do chant after encountering the True teaching, means they are believers...
Nichiren clearly states in Letter to Tonsured Layman Soya (Soya nyudo sho), “They entirely look up to groups of icchantikas and rely on them as leaders and, reverencing slanderers against the Dharma, make them national teachers (ie: Ikeda). Taking up the Classic Filial Piety of Confucius, they beat their parents’ heads and, while chanting the Lotus Sutra of Lord Shakya with their mouths, they go against the Master of teachings.” Nichiren, quoting Dengyo states, “Although they praise the Hokkekyo, on the contrary, they kill the heart of the Hokke.”
"If there are any among my followers who are weak in faith and go against what I, Nichiren, say, they will meet the same fate as did the Soga family..."
"However, there is a difference if one chants the daimoku while acting against the intent of this sutra. There are various stages in the practice of this sutra [and various forms of slander exist accordingly]. Let me sum them up by quoting from volume five of The Annotations on “The Words and Phrases of the Lotus Sutra”: “In defining the types of evil, The Words and Phrases of the Lotus Sutra states briefly, ‘Expound among the wise but not among the foolish.’5 One scholar6 enumerates the types of evil as follows: ‘I will first list the evil causes and then their effects. There are fourteen evil causes: (1) arrogance, (2) negligence, (3) wrong views of the self, (4) shallow understanding, (5) attachment to earthly desires, (6) not understanding, (7) not believing, (8) scowling with knitted brows, (9) harboring doubts, (10) slandering, (11) despising, (12) hating, (13) envying, and (14) bearing grudges.’” Since these fourteen slanders apply equally to priesthood and laity, you must be on guard against them."
"Now I, Nichiren, understand these things because of what I myself have undergone. But even if there are those among my disciples who understand them, they fear the accusations of the times; believing that their lives, which are as frail as dew, are in fact to be relied upon, they backslide, keep their beliefs hidden in their hearts, or behave in other such ways."
"...Some of my disciples may be asking. “Does Nichiren really have an understanding superior to that of Jikaku and Chishō?...”
"Though people may claim to be disciples of Nichiren, if they do not possess some proof of that fact from my hand, you must not trust them."
I maintain that proof is Nichiren's authenticated writings.
"Those who call themselves my disciples and practice the Lotus Sutra should all practice as I do."
"You also mentioned in your letter that the people connected with Ōta Jōmyō are apparently saying that the theoretical teaching of the Lotus Sutra can in no way lead to enlightenment. They are making a serious mistake. Remember this about the theoretical and essential teachings of the Lotus Sutra: Which is shallow and which profound, which superior and which inferior, which lenient and which severe, and which subordinate and which primary must be judged in accordance with the time and the people’s capacity. There are three periods in which the sacred teachings of the Buddha’s lifetime should be propagated; the people’s capacity should be thought of in the same way."
"Shō-bō, Noto-bō, and the lay nun of Nagoe were once Nichiren’s disciples. Greedy, cowardly, and foolish, they nonetheless pass themselves off as wise persons. When persecutions befell me, they took advantage of these to convince many of my followers to drop out. If you allow yourself to be so persuaded, those in Suruga who seem to believe in the Lotus Sutra, as well as the others who are about to take faith in it, will all discard the sutra without exception. There are a few in this province of Kai who have expressed their desire to take faith. Yet I make it a rule not to permit them to join us unless they remain steadfast in their resolve. Some people, despite their shallow understanding, pretend staunch faith and speak contemptuously to their fellow believers, thus often disrupting the faith of others. Leave such people strictly alone. The time will certainly come when, by the workings of Brahmā, Shakra, and other gods, the entire Japanese nation will simultaneously take faith in the Lotus Sutra. At that time, I am convinced, many people will insist that they too have believed since the very beginning."
and for what, a brief support of Donald Trump?
“In the same way, one who chants the daimoku as the Lotus Sutra teaches will never have a twisted mind...” (MW vol 5, Letter to Myomitsu Shonin, pg 196)
"If people should try to weaken your belief in the Lotus Sutra, consider that your faith is being tested. Tell them sardonically, “I deeply appreciate your warning. However, you should save your admonishment for yourselves."
"An asura contended that the Buddha taught only eighteen elements, but that he himself expounded nineteen. The non-Buddhist teachers claimed that the Buddha offered only one way to enlightenment, but that they had ninety-five. In the same way, the renegade disciples say, “Though the priest Nichiren is our teacher, he is too forceful. We will spread the Lotus Sutra in a more peaceful way.” In so asserting, they are being as ridiculous as fireflies laughing at the sun and moon, an anthill belittling Mount Hua, wells and brooks despising the river and the ocean, or a magpie mocking a phoenix. Namu-myoho-renge-kyo."
Katie too has proven to be a renegade disciple of Nichiren
As I continue to rely only on Nichiren , my perspectives have changed and I no longer hold the opinions I expressed here - 5 years ago? You didn’t date my comments but they were definitely not, yesterday ! I admit I was in error to hold such arrogant opinions.
ReplyDeleteAs you continue to look for and expose my faults , you don’t account for your supporting Trump- based on Nichiren’s teachings. That was what I asked of you almost a year ago — coinciding with when you began to attack and demean my faith and character.
As I pondered various aspects of correct practice 5 years ago (not yesterday), I shared the difficulty of correcting SGI members WITH WHOM I SPOKE regarding Namu as the prefix Nichiren himself designated, even on Gohonzon. The Buddha and Nichiren taught how difficult it would be to propagate the Lotus sutra in the Latter Day of the Law; how few could uphold it, etc. Neither taught that defamation on a public forum, name calling, character aspersions and judgements regarding a believers faith were "correct means for propagating the Mystic Law".
ReplyDeleteThere are no authentic teachings of Nichiren that support Mark Rogow's disrespect and spurious manipulation of the words and faith of followers of Nichiren. It is hard to fathom what motivates him, though it is clear that Nichiren's example as a human being is not a factor.
You are complicit with their slander and will fall into tthe lower four worlds. As Nichiren stated, "MANY SUCH EXAMPLES OF SLANDER ARE ALSO FOUND AMONG NICHIREN"S DISCIPLES AND LAY BELIEVERS." You not only ignore this but you are complicit. You have fallen into the Lower four worlds. My blog is insignificant. I wish I could point out YOUR slander to the whole world but you are as insignificant as a grain of sand and the SGI and Nichiren Shoshu is a storm of slander. I will leave your comments but I will not respond.
ReplyDeleteI am capable and consistent sharing Nichiren’s authentic teachings directly with others with whom I have a relationship, including former friends in SGI. What I don’t do is insult, vilify and disregard their questions or thoughts — even if I am criticized! I appreciate the question/answer format Nichiren used to demonstrate how one who is upholding the Law behaves when verbally attacked. Hope t
ReplyDeleteYou refresh your memory with the model Nichiren provided for us.
What’s up with you telling me or anyone what world/ realm we’re in? Haven’t heard that talk since being expelled from SGI for addressing errors … life to life.
So, I am as “insignificant as a grain of sand”?. And the former Nichiren priest, Jerry “ is not worth our spittle” ? And Greg is “unhinged” due to having suffered a stroke? These are your judgements , Doctor Mark. All in writing!. I would be complicit in slander if I remained silent about your explicitly expressed degradation of followers of Nichiren who have either criticized or rattled your sensibilities.
Revealing that you are consistently manifesting the World of Anger ("I am better than you", being holier than thou), is merely telling the truth of the matter. You ignore Greg's curses and vilifications over the years and then when he started with me, yes, I believed the stroke had caused him to lose his right mind. He was my best friend and because I briefly supported Trump, he ended the friendship. I had unconditional love for him and he hurt me deeply. Regarding Jerry, has become a slanderer of the Lotus Sutra and betrayer of Nichiren, not unlike you. It won't be long before you rejoin the SGI or NST. That is my prediction.
ReplyDeleteRewriting history and making wild predictions!
DeleteYou were challenged by both Greg and I to reflect on the teachings when you began supporting Trump. We’ve both agreed our participation here in any manner of “ support” for some of your posts - was an error.
You know nothing of Jerry’s past or current practice because you vilified him, wrote him off , but still claim authority over citing “ HIS slander”!
I was already independent when I encountered your blog March 2016- I never advanced in SGI because I questioned so much of their “ stuff” from day one. I was expelled for sharing Nichiren’s teachings, but I bear no grudge and regret deeply any vilification I participated in here. I realize my error. Seems Dave gets that much from reading here and ARBN.
I am confident saying that Greg, Jerry and I are independent of any sect , and they have no further interest in Nichiren Internet forums — yours included!
I’m commenting here because this has been your strategy - ugly phone calls , nasty emails and then calling me out by name here All because you cannot or will not sustain respectful life to life dialogue, but resort to the sort of threatening , fear mongering rhetoric that degrades Buddhism generally and Nichiren’s teachings specifically.
It’s you, Mark, who has devised a strategy to make this public- where you are in control of what is published and posture as the ultimate authority. I seek no one’s advice on how to respond to you. I have faith my daimoku is all I need, with my heart full of gratitude and determination to keep my vow to uphold Namu Myoho Renge Kyo.
Keep it up people and...
ReplyDeleteOn Sunday, September 26, 2021 at 12:41:42 PM UTC-7, kelpzoidzl wrote:
> On Friday, September 24, 2021 at 11:24:20 PM UTC-7, Chas. wrote:
> > On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 5:01:45 PM UTC-7, kelpzoidzl wrote:
> > > Nothing but BS
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> > > Pathetic
> > On Sunday, June 20, 2021 at 5:01:45 PM UTC-7, kelpzoidzl wrote:
> > [snip the lies]
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> > Actually, mostly quotes from Nichiren Daishonin's Gosho and the Lotus Sutra, which icchantika like yourself consider to be both BS and pathetic. And that is tragic for you and those who are swayed by you.
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> > -Chas.
> I am telling you the truth about your future:
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Why do you even visit ARBN?
DeleteJust seems odd that you post from an unmoderated blog on another where control via moderation achieves the same end.;
I had no connection to Chas/Julian- Noel and the rest - but I have spoken to Mark 5 times on the phone, communicated via email for 5 years- and am more closely connected to Greg and Jerry. Mark has set up his bully pulpit as the place to air what was personal , and in so doing, left no doubt about the damage his blog causes- Do you think this is a small, insignificant matter?
Jerry is no longer Nichiren Shoshu? Do tell. You started it by sullying me and my blog for an insignificant matter. You are nothing but an Asura who thinks that you are better than others. You will without a doubt reap what you are sowing and the effect is already not pretty. Good luck with YOUR propagation efforts. For this reason, your discouragement of the teachings that I would call anti-shakubuku, I will not let continue. By excoriating and slandering a Bodhisattva of the Earth, those who might wish to begin to chant the Daimoku will be dissuaded from doing so. It is all ego because i singled you out for failure to overlook a minor slander. who will read your slanderous comments if I again decide to moderate your tiresome and repetitive ramblings? No one. You will be howling at the moon because I won't even read them.
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