Honmon Butsuryu Shu would kick Nichiren out

"Where in the Gosho does Nichiren say only to chant to Gohonzons penned by himself?  Chapter and verse please." -- HBS member

Nichiren never said we should only chant to a Nichiren Gohonzon because there were only Nichiren inscribed Gohonzon when he wrote the Gosho. Since one is going to chant to a copy of a Gohonzon, our contention is that it should be a copy of a Nichiren Gohonzon. It's insanity for you to say, "Please return the Nichiren Gohonzon you chant to, and chant to a Gohonzon by Nissen?" If HBS had a Nichiren Gohonzon, as they claim, then why not copy it and use that? In the Hoon-jo we read, "The object of worship should be in all cases, the Master of Teachings Lord Shakya of the Original Doctine." Myoho Renge Kyo is the Dharma. Nichiren kept a statue of Shakyamuni Buddha in front of his Daimoku Only Gohonzon, yet the HBS says, "We don't allow that." Nichiren could not be in the HBS! They would kick him out! 

Why are the Three Treasures of Nichiren Lotus Sutra Buddhism the most profound Three Treasures?

The Three Treasures of Nichiren Lotus Sutra Buddhism are the most profound Three Treasures because they are the Three Treasures of Original Buddhism, the Buddhism taught and practiced 
since the infinite past.

The correct Three Treasures

The multilateral approach to Buddhism will never work. Nichiren Daishonin taught this. We know this because we believe Nichiren Daishonin and we see with our own eyes the disunity of mulitlateralis. The last and most important of the Five Cardinal Sins is breaking the unity of the Sangha.

Multilateralism in Buddhism is antithetical to Buddhism. The question remains, to what can all Buddhists unite? I have heard it said that Buddhists can unite, "around the Three Treasures" but almost to a man, everyone upholds a different view of the Three Treasures. Among the Theravadins, ask one what is the Treasure of the Dharma and he will tell you: "It is the Pali Canon.", ask another, "It is the Four Noble Truths, and another, "The Eightfold Path.", and yet another, "It is the Twelve Linked Chain of Causation." Ask a provisional Mahayanist and you get an even greater variety of answers. This is equally true about the other Two Treasures. If there is nothing to which we can unify than the Buddha is a great liar and there is no Cardinal Sin of Disrupting the Unity of Believers.

The Three Treasures to which all Buddhists should unite are the most profound Three Treasures: Namu Myoho renge kyo, The Master of Teachings Lord Shakya of the Original Doctrine of the Lotus Sutra, and the Sangha led by Bodhisattva Emminent Conduct. The most profound Three Treasures are the correct Three Treasures.

Why the Lotus Sutra is called The "One Buddha" Vehicle

"In the same volume in the Lotus Sutra, the Buddha says, 'for the sake 
of the Buddha way I have in countless different lands from the beginning 
until now widely preached various sutras, but among them this Sutra is 
foremost'. This passage means that Shakyamuni Buddha has appeared 
in countless lands, taking different names and assuming varying life 
spans." (A Sage and an Unenlightened Man). 

Why only SGI Gohonzons are valid

"We have the authority"

The strange Honmon Butsuryu Shu religion

In the book, The Teachings of Honmon Butsuryushu by Nisso Fukuoka, three pages are devoted to Sacred Water and one and a half pages to the Eternal Buddha. Nichiren devotes hundreds of pages to the Eternal Buddha and one passage to Gofu [divinely revealed medicinal]

April 28th

The birth of True Buddism. Thank you Nichiren.

Namu Myoho renge kyo
Namu Myoho renge kyo
Namu Myoho renge kyo

Sharing coffee with triple murderers but not Guy McCloskey

Guy McClosky is one of the few people in the entire world I would not let enter my home and I have shared coffee with triple murderers. 

"Those slanderous Shakyamuni worshippers" -- SGI leader

"I especially warn the priests on Mount Kiyosumi.  If they treat me with less respect than they show their own parents or the three treasures, they will become wretched beggars in this life and will fall into the hell of incessant suffereing in the next.  I will explain why.  The villainous Tojo Saemon Kagenobu once hunted the deer and other animals kept by Seicho-ji and tried to force the priests in the various lodging temples to becomeNembutsu believers.  At that time I pitted myself against Tojo and supported the lorde of the manor.  I composed a fervernt oath that read, "If the two temples at Kiyosumi and Futama should come into Tojo's possession, I will discard the Lotus Sutra!" Then, I tied it to the hand of the object of worship (23), to which I prayed continuously. Within a year both temples were freed from Tojo's grasp..." -- Nichiren

FOOTNOTE 23: The object of worship: A statue of Shakyamuni Buddha. 

Nichiren on SGI's United Nations NGO [non-governmental organization] and interfaith activities

"It is said that good medicine tastes bitter. This sutra, which is like good medicine, dispels attachments to the five vehicles and establishes the one ultimate principle. It reproaches those in the ranks of ordinary beings and censures those in the ranks of sagehood, denies [provisional] 
Mahayana and refutes Hinayana. It speaks of the heavenly devils as poisonous insects and calls non-Buddhists demons. It censures those who cling to Hinayana teachings, calling  them mean and impoverished, and it dismisses bodhisattvas as beginners in learning. For this reason, heavenly devils hate to listen to it, non-Buddhists find their ears offended, persons of the two vehicles are dumbfounded, and bodhisattvas flee in terror. That is why all these types of people try to make hindrances [for a practitioner of the Lotus Sutra]. The Buddha was not speaking nonsense when he declared that hatred and jealousy would abound.” -- The Opening of the Eyes

Chanting to a picture of Daisaku Ikeda

http://markrogow.blogspot.com/2013/02/reminds-me-of-time-ymd-chanted-to.html

The passage attributed to Nikko is an obvious forgery.

"Disciples must absorb and understand the Gosho in the depths of their lives. But the most profound teachings can only be transmitted by the master." --  Faked Taisekaji writing attributed to Nikko to which Soka Gakkai leader Harsh Mishra comments:

"...noone but Daisaku Ikeda has grasped his [Nichiren Daishonin's] heart...", implying that Daisaku Ikeda is the only master who can transmit the most profound teachings.

The entire Taisekiji and Soka Gakkai theology that a living  master/mentor is required in order to attain Buddhahood is a great slander of the Lotus Sutra and teachings of Nichiren Daishonin. It will cause every last Nichiren Shoshu and Soka Gakkai member to fail to ascend beyond the World of Anger.

If we think about it rationally [which both the Nichiren Shoshu and SGI members are incapable of doing, thus proving that they have not even advanced to the World of Humanity], the most profound teaching is Namu Myoho renge kyo. Anyone whether wise or foolish can transmit this teaching. Therefore,. the passage attributed to Nikko is an obvious forgery. 

Everyone should have a copy of a Nichiren Gohonzon

NST and other sects say that only priests can inscribe Gohonzon. This is a mute point because everyone can now obtain an exact reproduction of a Gohonzon inscribed by Nichiren himself. There is no need to argue the point of who can and who can not inscribe Gohonzon because everyone is agreed (except NST and SGI) that Nichiren's Gohonzon is valid. It would go a long way in unifying the Nichiren Buddhist community if everyone had a Nichiren Gohonzon. People would also wake up faster. 

Marc S. explains the principle of The Living Buddha Shakyamuni

"Here is a passage from the "Ongi Kuden" upheld by Josei Toda as equivalent to the "Final Teachings" a term usually reserved for the Lotus Sutra itself. Here is a passage that preaches Medieval Tendai Hongaku Original Enlightenment]: "Twenty Three: "The Remotest past" [STN 3:2671]" 

"The Ongi Kuden states: The meaning of this (Fathoming the Lifespan") chapter lies in the Buddha’s actual attainment of enlightenment in the remotest past (kuon jitsujo). "Remotest past" has the meaning of "not setting in motion," "unadorned," and "being just as it is originally." Because this is the Buddha endowed with the uncreated three bodies, he does not attain enlightenment for the first time; this is "not setting in motion." He is not endowed with the thirty-two marks or eighty character characteristics; thus he is "unadorned." Because he is the originally inherent Buddha  who constantly abides, this is "being just as it is originally." This is the meaning of the "remotest past." "Remotest past" (kuon) indicates Namu-myoho-renge-kyo. "Actual attainment" (jitsujo) means "truly opened," that is, opened [and revealed] as being uncreated." -- from "Some Disputed Writings in the Nichiren Corpus.. by J. Stone Ph.D., pages 526-527 }

Toda interprets this passage:

"In this passage, the text interprets the Buddha’s attainment of enlightenment in the remotest past, described in the "Fathoming the Lifespan" chapter, not as a past occurrence at some finite point in time, but as the revelation that Buddhahood is inherent originally. Hence the characters ‘jitsujo’—"actual attainment"—are accompanied by ‘furigana’ indicating that they are to be read ‘makoto ni hiraketari’ or "truly opened."

This is a reasonably good example of Medieval Hongaku Thought being falsely represented as the idea of Nichiren Shonin. In it, the Buddha is no longer a real Buddha , sharing his limitless and timeless enlightenment by his compassion but is rather seen as the substance of the universe itself which is originally pure and enlightened and nothing past that. The Buddha is seen as an "originally inherent Buddha" who constantly abides and therefore has no beginning, explaining the limitless Lifespan of the Buddha.

In Original Enlightenment thought, the Universal Body of the Buddha, sometimes called the "Dharma Body" becomes central. The Buddha is "things just as they are", inherent in the fabric of the Universe and all things and beings contained in it. So we can understand how by this view proponents of this theology eventually have declared the common person as the ‘real’ Buddha, or ‘all life’ as the Buddha. We have all seen SGI members say things like "I am the Buddha" or "The Buddha is me !"

So this is very a popular idea in the SGI because they understand that a philosophy that absolutely affirms ‘the self’ is attractive to people who are looking to feel better about themselves personally and who at the same time have rejected any sort of transcendent spiritual religious belief system, often due to a poor experience with the religion of their birth, (Christianity or Judaism) and who are now working that poor experience out on Buddhism. 

The question is whether or not this is "Koshogi", "the right old teachings of Nichiren Shonin" or something different and at odds with it. It is clear to me and many other people who are careful students of what Nichiren wrote, that Nichiren Shonin’s original teachings did not employ this formulation of Original Enlightenment as its basic premise.

An Eternal Universal Buddha (often called the Buddha’s "Dharma Body") is found in many of the Sutras and is nothing at all special. This Universal Buddha is the aspect of the Buddha that is identical with all things and beings in the Universe, perfect and inherently enlightened simply ‘as they are’, manifesting only an ‘unadorned’ (pure) existence. If this was all the Lotus Sutra preached, as it would have to for Original Enlightenment to be valid, it would just be more of the same, equal to other Sutras. But the Lotus Sutra stands apart from all of the prior teachings precisely because in it we find a Buddha whose wisdom and compassion is also eternal, an Eternal Reward Body (enlightened wisdom and conduct is the ‘reward’ of practice) which is  really the central principle of Buddha, according Nichiren. The Manifest Body of Shakyamuni Buddha too is eternal according to Nichiren Daishonin

This Three Bodied Buddha is found in only one place, the Honmon section of the Lotus Sutra, which is the ‘Original Gate’ to enlightenment from which all enlightenment arises and whose merits and insight are squeezed down into the Object of Worship,  for us to ‘receive and keep’ . It is this ‘Honmon Buddha’ (Essential Buddha or Central Buddha or Original Buddha), that Nichiren Shonin believed in, not this "Kanjin Buddha" of Original Enlightenment theology, a metaphorical Buddha that is a reflection of your own life. The Original Enlightenment ‘Kanjin Buddha’ is "Ri-Butsu", an idealized conception of a Buddha, not actually real but only a bag of meritorious conceptions that people shoot for as a goal . Substituting this "Kanjin |Buddha" for the Original and Eternal Buddha of the Honmon is "Hobo", a serious blasphemy, according to Nichiren Daishonin.. 

Nichiren rarely describes this Buddha in his authentic writings as "uncreate triple body" as we see in the above passage but instead constantly describes the Buddha as "Lord, Teacher, and Parent" , and the "Good Physician" who is ever watchful and dispensing the cure for our spiritual illness .

Nichiren is not simply using flowery language when he repeats over and over that the Buddha is ‘Lord, Teacher and Parent’ but rather it is indicative of a religious principle that upholds a real Buddha .."Ji-Butsu", an Actual Buddha, who lifts all beings to their enlightenment by inconceivable powers and via the grace of faith.

When Nichiren writes that "it is hard to believe that the world of Buddha can exist in the world of Humans" in the Kanjin Honzon Sho, it does not indicate the sort of Dharma Body oriented inherency of Medieval Hongaku thought. 

The Buddha and Humans share the same reality but the human does not fathom the entirety of the universe and cannot attain enlightenment by his own meager powers in the age of Mappo. That is why true Nichiren Buddhists do not rely on meditation or undergo hard Tendai/Shingon like esoteric rituals to attempt to gain enlightenment by their own personal insight. Instead, the seed of Buddhahood must be planted within us. 

This occurs when we hear ‘Namu Myohorengekyo.’ The enlightenment of the Buddha is thereby ‘taken in’ and then exists in our own mind , as hard as that is to believe. So we receive the Daimoku when we hear it, which plants the seed of enlightenment and then we keep it via strong faith which provides a fertile field for the seed of enlightenment to grow. 

The universe does not simply just exist, it is also simultaneously being cognized, perfectly, what Myoraku Daishi called an "Inconceivable Field of Cognition" that the faithful can enter (as we all have a Buddha Nature) and which enters us (as the Buddha has full Enlightenment) both coming together bringing the ordinary person to enlightenment. That is something different than Hongaku idea’s of the common person being the Buddha inherently." --MS

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Sly Fox Python branch of the Fuji school, otherwise known as the Ikeda sect.

The Sly Fox branch of the Nichiren Happon Haha branch is one such sect and the Nichiren Python sect is another. The former cons their members out of their money and the latter squeezes the money out of them. The Soka Gakkai has adopted the most effective money collecting strategies from both sects and is now known as the Sly Fox Python branch of the Fuji school, otherwise known as the Ikeda sect. 

More Deano "top" SGI leader

  Deano writes: 

>>>>>The SGI members daily lives always show actual proof. Through over coming obstacles day by day we create good fortune and karma that can break through the bonds the causes our lessor self to win over our buddha nature. We will march on to the 21st century unafraid of hereitcs and slanderers because our eyes are afixed on our Great Master Ikeda Sensei. 

Those who leave this obrbit of faith are unable to see the clear reflection of the full potential that lies within their own lives that is secretly hidden. 

The Gohonzon is within the mortal flesh of all human beings. Awakening to this can only be achieved by orbiting the SGI globe of faith. 

For the correct faith and to return to that which you may have lost, you can e-mail me privately. 

No need to be ashamed of your errors, and the fact that the priests fooled you! As you see the Kempon guy is afraid to debate with SGI leaders, but he can pick on the members, how pitiful.>>>>> 

I give up. When can I return my copy of a Nichiren Gohonzon for Nichikan's grotesque imitation?

On SGI and temple members "correct" views

"One thing that I'd like to say is that I'm not happy with anyone keeping information from people 'so it won't confuse them'.  I'll agree that both the SGI and the Temple tried to 'protect us' from information. When they did teach us, it was always to indoctrinate us with 'correct' interpretations, whether those 'correct' views were actually correct or not." -- SGI member

"Where is the compassion in this?"

"As a member of SGI I and a survivor of ritual abuse I grow concerned at some of the experiences I have had and what I have seen. The practice, for me, has proven beneficial, however. I feel deeply uncomfortable with the amount of influence and control other members and "leaders" were attempting to exert over my life. I am many things and a member of SGI is only one of them,  not all of them, and how or when I choose to  practice has got to be my choice as I am the only one who will deal with the consequences of that practice. Too often I have been belittled and humiliated by other members when I chose to think or speak for myself. Where is the compassion in this?"-- Sandra 

Ill--informed SGI leader before the internet opened his eyes

"How can you say you have a Nichiren Gohonzon? Please explain this to me. I think that the Dai-Gohonzon is the only one of the Daishonin's Gohonzons that exist today. And what do you mean eyes open? The important thing is are your eyes open. Now I am Curious at your claims, please prove what you say, and can we have a mature dialogue, instead of these little incomplete comments with no doctrinal proof attached." -- SGI leader 

A top SGI leader flusshed out of his burrow

So much anger.  I get paid quite well actually.  And I am pround of it. I  hope you will take the time to read the goshos instead of slandering  everyone you come across. I see that Mr. Rogowdoc has you as his spoke  person.  And who are you anyway. Find Nichirens real teachings and get free  from your anger. -- Deano     **** Posted from Supernews, Discussions Start Here(tm) ****-  http://www.supernews.com/ - Host to the the World's Discussions & Usenet       Reply to author      Forward         Report spam

Rogowdoc   View profile    More options Nov 20 1998, 2:00 am It was only a matter of time before the pure water of the Law would  flush out a top leader from his burrow. Deano writes:  >>>>>So much anger>>>>>        Compared to the anger you will encounter from Emma the Lord of Hell,  the  hell demons, and the guardians of Buddhism, my anger is slight.  >>>>>I get paid quite well actually.>>>>>        I'm sure you do. More in one day  "for spreading the teachings" than Shijo Kingo  received in  an entire lifetime.  >>>>>"And I am pround of it.">>>>        Get a job and get a life.  >>>> I hope you will take the time to read the goshos instead of slandering  everyone you come acroos.>>>>>        Pointing out the truth is hardly slander.  >>>>>I see that Mr. Rogowdoc has you as his spoke person.>>>>>         LOL. Most distance themselves from  from me but every once and a while,  someone awakens to the truth. If not, I don't know  how much longer i would  continue to post.  >>>>> And who are you anyway. Find Nichirens real teachings and get free from  your anger.>>>>>         Only an insane person can not see the problem with the exhorbitant salaries of  the top SGI leaders.