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Sunday, August 7, 2016

Better just to leave sleeping dogs lie


"I suspect that, with the SGI's continual process of re-inventing itself, we represent way more potential trouble for them than we're worth. After all, they already still count the members who left in their membership statistics, unless those members demand in writing that their personal information be removed, and even if they say they've done that, who's to say they really did??

Those of us, especially us old-timers, have experiences that today's SGI would rather forget. Look how everybody forgot all about former SGI-USA General Director George M. Williams after Ikeda kicked him to the curb - his name was stricken from all publications, he wasn't even mentioned by name in the New Human Revolution even in a passage featuring him. When Mr. Williams passed away in Dec. 2012, there was no mention at all in any SGI source. No memorial service. NOTHING.

You can't find any references to former leaders anywhere in any SGI publication. The only recurring name is Ikeda's. The fact that the Soka Gakkai has consistently had such monster attrition rates may well have played into the decision to write up the Soka Gakkai's history as a "novelization" rather than a history; the only real names in there are Toda's, Makiguchi's, and dead priests'. Also the decision to disguise and conceal identities and events by changing details, splitting one person's details between two or more characters, and combining aspects of several people into a single character. With people quitting right and left, this would have been a necessary development, because if it had been written as a 
history, people would have been asking, "Hey! What happened to all these leaders we're reading about??" Like we did with that Makiguchi disciple former General Director of the Soka Gakkai, Shuhei Yajima, who nobody hears about any more O_O

Given that SGI continues to tweak its image and doctrines, perhaps we represent too much trouble. SGI is well rid of us, because WE remember the rank intolerance of SGI, which is now trying to pull the wool over outsiders' eyes with its "interfaith" nonsense. The intolerance and bigotry of SGI are still there - if there's any doubt, just glance at "Soka Spirit" (the "We hate Nichiren Shoshu" dept.) and you'll see. The existence of Soka Spirit completely contradicts SGI's own charter but SGI doesn't seem to see any problem with that. We would point that out. If SGI members were to somehow accomplish the heroic feat of luring us back to a meeting, would we like what we saw there, or would we cause trouble by asking too many questions and pointing out the utter lack of integrity in rewriting all the organization's doctrines, tenets, and priorities, since SGI has been progressively transforming into the Ikeda Cult?

No, they probably don't make any effort to seek us out. Around a million members have left SGI in the US alone. Shouldn't be too hard to track a few of them down. But the leaders know there's no point. We left for good reasons. That's why we never went back. They can delude themselves that everybody who ever tries SGI will be happier in SGI, they can tell each other that as much as they like, they can believe it, but considering that they've lost about 30 times as many members as they now have, probably best to just let those sleeping dogs lie." -- BlancheFromage

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  1. " They can delude themselves that everybody who ever tries SGI will be happier in SGI, they can tell each other that as much as they like, they can believe it, but considering that they've lost about 30 times as many members as they now have, probably best to just let those sleeping dogs lie." -- BlancheFromage

    Well, Blanche I think you might want to reconsider your advice here. What one does with the information you have shared depends on whether or not the practitioner of Nichiren's Buddhism is determined to attain Buddhahood and avoid complicity in slander of the Law. Or rather, Blanche, it seems that perhaps you have missed some key teachings in Nichiren's writings.

    In "The Essentials For Attaining Buddhahood", Nichiren writes:

    "The nirvana Sutra states; "If even a good monk sees someone destroying the teaching and disregards him, failing to reproach him for his offense, then you should realize that that monk is betraying the Buddha's teaching. But if he ousts the destroyer of the Law, reproaches him, or punishes him, then he is my disciple and a true voice hearer." (WNDi, p. 747)

    What do you think, Blanche? Is what you have shared here indicative of disregard or slander of the Law?:

    "Given that SGI continues to tweak its image and doctrines, perhaps we represent too much trouble. SGI is well rid of us, because WE remember the rank intolerance of SGI, which is now trying to pull the wool over outsiders' eyes with its "interfaith" nonsense. The intolerance and bigotry of SGI are still there - if there's any doubt, just glance at "Soka Spirit" (the "We hate Nichiren Shoshu" dept.) and you'll see. The existence of Soka Spirit completely contradicts SGI's own charter but SGI doesn't seem to see any problem with that."

    Or are YOU, or anyone who points this out to SGI and gets the *boot* the one who is deserving of punishment for *betraying the Buddha's teaching?

    Nichiren continues: "You should etch deeply in your mind the two words "see" and "disregard" in the phrase' sees someone destroying the teaching and disregards him. " (and 1 p.747)

    If you get *the boot* from SGI, should you count your own blessings and disregard what this means?

    Nichiren states :"To hope to attain Buddhahood without speaking out against slander is as futile as trying to find water in the midst of fire or fire in the midst of water. " (Ibid)

    So which is it, Blanche?

    1) you do not have a clear enough understanding of Nichiren's teachings to identify slander of the Law?

    2) You don't practice with the goal of attaining Buddhahood?

    3) You do not believe you have any responsibility for protecting and upholding the Law and the Buddha's teachings?

    or "has the poison penetrated so deeply" based on your affiliation with and complacency toward the SGI, that your mind no longer functions-- ??

    ~Katie



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  2. 1). Yes
    2). Yes
    3). Yes

    I have been rebuking Blanche for several years. Her hatred for Nichiren knows no limits. However, her many remonstrations with SGI demonstrate the viewpoints shared by many people who left the org. She also DEMONstrates how SGI breeds evil men and women.

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  3. its true blanche has lot her faith. if she ever had any. but at least she see's how absurd the gakkai and ikeda are. like most , she does not clearly see the reason why. cheers blanche.

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