The benefit of leaving the Gakkai and practicing on your own

Hello, my name is M ........., my experience is long but I'll summarize! 

I am a Buddhist for 24 years, but I do not practice any more with the Gakkai. 

I live in a small village, at the beginning it was beautiful , we were few and there was sincerity and humanity and all we are committed to grow! 

The clock is ticking the establishment of groups, but over the years I have noticed less and less study gosho and Buddhist principles. 

Over the years I had noticed many things that did not seem right in the Soka Gakkai but I was traveling a lot.

The years pass, the music progresses, I open a music school in my country, I graduate in music therapy and I am able to get into public venues where I work. My efforts are rewarded, I live music 24/7, from concert music teaching to therapy. 

I offer the house for the business and I have a responsibility to the SGI group. 

And here begins the real pain! I summarize in points to avoid confusion: 

1 The leaders begin to tell me how I should keep my house (that picture no, no that book, etc.)

2 Some managers ask me to work in the school of music, though not qualified, to my no, begin slander. 

3 You get to ask me to do a big meeting with the leaders, which should give an account of my work as a music therapist. 

4 Practically I am accused of witchcraft, and I'm not kidding, as the Inquisition. 

5 The slander, the lies the evil abound, people turn their backs to me, especially those who had helped more. 

Needless to say I was wrong, but just for the sake of Buddhism, I would like to list the benefits that I received after I moved away from the Gakkai: 

1 I find that my husband betrayed by an anonymous letter came to my father, at first glance it may seem bad luck, but it was a huge security given developments, which for obvious reasons is not the story here. 

2 School of Music through a crisis. Bad luck? no! emerge misbehavior of some teachers, who are removed. Now there is collaboration, the school works better, and we're affigliando a major academy. 

3 Music Therapy that already was in University, is declared science, opening new roads. 

4 Many personal benefits that I am not to list. 

I conclude with the famous phrase "follow the law and not the person," you do not have an association to practice well, and above all each of us is responsible for his life, and no one has the right to tell him what to do, what to read , etc. etc. Each of us has a lot of potential, that you can not manifest through a system that takes all the same! 

Those Soka obviously I have been contacted several times with absurd excuses, but the true humanity passes through the heart, not through the action induced a responsible! 

Do treasure every experience!

If your ex hit you why do you blame the SGI?

"Because before he joined the SGI, for ten years, he never hit me."

SGI "Family Revolution"

I'll tell you my experience: 

I would like to expose my indirect experience with the Soka Gakkai, in the sense that I did not practice but my wife practiced and, in fact, the Soka Gakkai has ruined my family. I'll try to be brief. 

THE fact goes back about 10 years ago and I tell it to make sure that people who read this story make good use of it. 

I live near Civitanova Marche in the province of Macerata and about 10 years ago I was married and we had a 9 year old girl. 

It was a time when my wife had lost her job and we all know how work is important for every person. She then left 2 evenings a week for what she called a "special time"and then I found out she was going to SGI meetings . 

After a while she began chanting in Chinese at home before some sort of altar alongside a photo of Ikeda (terrible this thing). 

Personally, the chanting gave me a strange feeling and I rejected it. I asked her to pray in the room with the door closed because it was bothering me and maybe also our daughter. 

Then I told him that I had no intention to pray with her ​​and I asked her politely not least of performing in front of our daughter. The girl, unfortunately, was intrigued by this practice that perhaps she seemed a kind of game and she began chanting with her ​​mother. 

After a month the girl began chanting even in her sleep. She wasn't sleeping well and began to lose focus in school. 

I asked my wife if she could possibly pray quietly and without our daughter. She said, asserting that she was already taking precautions and that she was told by her leader to recite at least 2 or 3 times a day for 30 minutes because they would find work and would bring harmony and happiness within the family. 

She did not understand that it was the SGI practice that was the ruin of our family !!!!!! 

I now was in the family with the only aim to get close to my daughter in order to help her overcome herb sleep disorder and poor school performance due to the drama caused by her mother.

Given my wife's constant recitation every night, I thought of separating and simultaneously to seek custody of my daughter on the grounds that her mother was neglecting her, chanting for one hour and a half a day and going to meetings. 

Well I made ​​this request, got the social worker who has appraised of thge the situation at home which my wife confirmed. I managed to get joint custody (which is almost impossible 9 years ago ) so that my daughter could stay with me every other week. I was happy 'cause in those weeks that she was with me, the little girl resumed the serenity and you could see from the look in the eyes !!! 

She is now an adult and thankfully did not follow the practice of the mother who remained, unfortunately, exclusively with SGI friends SGI. I write this to let you know that if a member of the family becomes a member of the Soka Gakkai, it is the ruin of the family unless you both practice together. This was my reality as it 'was for other people in my area in Porto Potenza: Broken families because one member of the family 'became Soka Gakkai. 

"Put a leaf in your mouth when you handle the Gohonzon" -- SGI leader

But its ok to give Gohonzon to every Tom, Dick, and Hiro so they can unceremoneously throw them in the trash as did hundreds of thousands of former SGI cult members.

"All that is important is whether a belief is in accord with the scriptures." -- Nichiren

"The truth of Buddhism has nothing to do with the opinion of the majority. All that is important is whether a belief is in accord with the scriptures. And, further, the golden words of the Buddha have already informed us that in the age of the Latter Day of the Law those who uphold the Right Dharma would be few in number. Thus the Nirvana Sutra says that "those who uphold the Right Dharma are as few as the grains of earth on a fingernail, and those that slander the Dharma are as numerous as the earth in all the ten directions" 

"I began to no longer exist." and "he beat me"

My experience of living together lasted just long enough, to realize, to suffer a lot and run away. Summarize. Last summer, summer 2011, after saying goodbye to my partner leave for Sardinia, my land. Having said a few days before departure he took my face in his hands and gave me a pat instead of the lady he loved so much, I'm not a believer but I loved this sweetness. Return on September 2, picks me up and I notice a strange detachment, which also had received the phone while lontananza.Arriviamo home and observe that it is agitated, asking me to wait at the bar that I have prepared a surprise. I wait long, arrives and tells me. "Accidents" the surprise remained in the house of his puzzled ... I have no doubt, but tant'è..Arriviamo home and see the changes, a new piece of furniture in our camera..chiedo and He tells me that he needed spazio..i drawers were empty but still do not understand. Ok, go out for shopping, open the closet and find a cabinet piccolo..lo more open and rest incredulos, within a scroll written in cinese..attendo falling, ask me and says I am a Buddhist! I laugh, I grimaced and wonder what it means, how it could have become Buddhist, in such a short time and without telling me. Then I take a step back in the memory and remember that before leaving we were along with a colleague to whom he asked: "Is it true that you're a Buddhist?" The fellow began to tell, and I heard, but not giving weight, but I thought I saw him interested curiosità..poi home I was asked what I thought, I joked about how my usual and a little pissed too, but there you are. They had already arranged everything. When I began to ask how it was possible that in a few weeks he had abandoned his belief for which he was moved, and they had already been awarded the title of a member with its gonzhon his answers were aggressive and the usual, do not understand anything, do the wiseacre This is the real fede..Non knew the soka Gakkai and I felt actually guilty for not understanding his faith, the rest was me in not having any defect. I left puzzled and angry. The secret was a telling sign that something was not working. And in fact, he knew that I am a person who wants the truth at all costs and that delves deeply before accepting it. Began the lies, was increasingly distant, he told me to be at work and was with them until the day that I was ill, physically, very, I needed him.Disappears, cry and not capisco.per case the part and feel the call to a phone that never stopped haunting litany in TRETS, in secret, he is given that he had no money and I discovered more sure that all travel and accommodation had cost a lot, they had sent him making him feel invested with a fundamental role, as when they did present a marriage ceremony between members. I began to no longer exist. One night when I try to move the gohonzon from the bedroom, it throws with violence on the ground, as if I was profaning it with my hands. More and more pieces. I can tell, I find that he did shakubuku to his friend with serious problems, separate, loss of vision and work, I get angry too because I realized that they did the same about him, was in serious trouble with the bank, a debt huge ... I understood that the purpose of the play was to solve the problem, so much so that one day I ask him to buy a scratch card and he replies that still is not the time, he had not played enough. Things fall, I am more and more confused, I love him so much that between anger and tears I try to talk, ask him to read with me, but the answer is always the same, it is all a plot, are the priests of Shoshu or I follow the law, not man. My God, I have no way out, saying that I do not understand it, you will understand it when it is too late. I write an email to a senior member of his group for help, convinced that he is having trouble, the story of violence in my comrade of lies etc, I am told that I could not handle my love, who is now my partner surrounded by about fifty people including young and old, who love him and he with them is perfect, so I'm the problem, I end the conversation with a "I wish you peace". He defines me. My head is spinning, between anger and injustice I continue to try to reach him. New Year. I was alone in my house, he is pissed for the letter written to his capo... It is a difficult pill to swallow but he tells me that he had a vow to fulfill and to wait at home . I accept just to be with him. I leave home, it's ten, I guess it will take a half hour. Eleven thirty, he turned off the phone, I leave the house, I do not have the keys and do not know where to go, it's snowing, I sit under a tree to wait and try to continually call, cry, and tremble. I hear the fireworks from the town and I cry even more. At one he calls me and tells me I'm coming. I see that does not come from the part of the wood but the land, tells me he has been around but it's impossible, it takes me in his arms because they are almost frozen to death and put me to bed. While in the bathroom I take his phone and I discover that he was at his brother's house and toasting at midnight. You can not understand the searing pain. I'm going home tomorrow. Days pass, I forgive him, I come home with him, I am too much in love and I can not get out, stopped by reason or sentiment. I keep trying to talk, I find the zaimu newsletters, books and so much more. I find that he did shakubuku zaimu to a man of sixty who had ischemia, lost his job and his woman. I get angry even more, I say that is vile, disgusting, that it sucks, that they are vultures. He beats me and tells me crying that I must apologize, I have to go with him, I have to play [SGI] ... Since then, we have not seen. I still suffer a lot and I am fighting for the truth to come out. I put my signature because I have always believed in and fought and always will, and its fair to do so without fear of anyone. Margherita Manconi.

"Dear followers of the SGI if disgust has a name it is yours, if cowardice has a surname that too is yours."

Amen

"Their miserable dialectic light years away from the very principles of Buddhism..."

In fact I thought that now some of them would show up to "defend" the poor wife by a brute like me (a TENJI-ma?). I think that instead they have no courage to face me because they know I will never accept a comparison based solely on their miserable dialectic light years away from the very principles of Buddhism, and then from my sterile departing.

"I just want to live better with my daughters"

"I just want to live better with my daughters, the rest matters little. Things have remained the same and the two of us live separated from home as long as we can. I spend more time at work she spends more time with her "shakubuku" & Co."

"I realized that the lie is the first commandment of SGI members against non-practicing partners."

"I was then beginning to resign myself to living with a zombie, accepting her choice and still trying to see the positive in all this."

Conclusion.... "I realized that the lie is the first commandment of SGI members against non-practicing partners."

In comments Victims of the Soka Gakkai [in Italian]:

https://vittimesokagakkai.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/vittime-soka-gakkai-esperienze-quando-un-coniuge-convivente-parente-entrano-in-soka-gakkai/#comments

Ikeda, King, Ghandi, George Washington. and Benjamin Franklin?

Another former SGI member experience

Hi,

I have been in this practice for more ten years and as rightly said, the sgi is a big gimmick. The leaders are so much into themselves that I haven’t ever seen a glimpse of humane behavior, compassion or humanity in them. I now decided to leave the SGI group and pray on my own. The practice which was initiated by Daishonin has not only got diluted but the essence of it totally lost and what is replaced is dictatorship. The leaders are so unconcerned about the existing members and are there making new members. Its like more of any networking group rather than bring about peace to the society. I feel so good to have left the politics of the sgi and its leaders but am unsure if I should give back the Gohonzon. if someone can help me on that , it would be great.

thanks

Brainwashed Ikeda cult member kidding himself: "rebels in the SGI"

#13 | Written by BooBoo about 10 months ago.

Dear michaelmichael,

I’m really sorry to hear your experience. I was wondering what region you are practicing in because it sounds a bit like the LA Beach Cities Region. I’ve been practicing for over 40 years and had many frustrating experiences of misguided, ill-trained leaders pushing pubs, contribution, and meeting attendance on new members and youth. Unfortunately, fanatics are hard to avoid in any religious organization.

Fortunately, in our local district, it is a warm, friendly and family like environment full of rebels who won’t take crap from overbearing leaders. They do watch us closely however, but can’t seem to deny our success. Practicing Buddhism in a natural, friendly and and open way seems to work for us. I guess our only way to change the SGI organization is from our district outward. I have good friends all over the country who always support my practice and encourage me no matter what. Most of them are rebels too.

I hope you keep practicing whether in or out of the organization in a way that best suits you. Someday, I hope the leaders will be willing to face the truth and realize the true condition of our organization has everything to do with incompetent leadership and NOT whats wrong with people who decide to leave SGI.

"Nichiren was a badass and the Samurai loved him" -- by Curtis McCosco

#10 | Written by Curtis McCosco about 3 months ago.

After 35 years away from the “org”, SGI, I’ve been dropping in at a local district in what Nichiren would have referred to as “a remote province”. The level of discourse has, if anything, gotten even more watered down to motivational bromides and “just chant” solutions. Even more distressing, membership appears to have declined from when I was active; an era referred to as the bad old days of incorrect practice. Leaders define Middle Way as a compromise, and when I mention “mutual possession” their eyes glaze. What gives?

I agree with the question, “why aren’t there any songs about Nichiren” and take that one step further; why is SGI still promoting the oxymoronic “world peace through individual happiness” and not something along the lines of “awakening to your true identity as a bodhisattva of the earth”? Nichiren’s kick-ass approach to enlightenment is perfectly suited for today when true wisdom teachings are emerging from the earth of indigenous cultures; fresh water into old roots. Mindfulness is a perfect example. This is a wildly popular practice with real-world benefits. It’s what I call Ichinen Sanzen Lite. The Lotus Sutra exhibits all the major principles of quantum theory. Star Wars and Avatar have nothing on the spectacular Ceremony in the Air, except the conspicuous absence of violence.

Nichiren Buddhism is the most exciting teaching I’ve ever encountered, but what do we get as the public face; the World Tribune and Living Buddhism. Mention Buddhism in America and you get references to the Dalai Lama, Thich Nat Han, and Zen. Why not Nichiren? I love all of Buddhism, but Nichiren is my main man. So I talk it up among friends; have for nearly half a century. There are probably 50 people I communicate regularly about Nichiren and the Lotus Sutra, not encumbered by any master, as Nichiren was not, as Nagarjuna was not.

One last note, please indulge me this lengthy post. Back in the ’80s I was working in the music biz in Hollywood and ate regularly at an east side sushi bar where the guy with the knife was a drinking buddy. His wife was in Nichiren Shu, so we talked about Nichiren a lot. He directed me to a place downtown called the Japan Society, or something, to do non-sectarian research. There was a lot about Nichiren and Shijo Kingo in the historical record. Nichiren was often referred to by a Japanese term with no translation. I asked my pal about it. He said it means “badass”. Nichiren was a badass and the samurai loved him.

Hehe "Sensei di qua", "Sensei di la", "Sensei ha fatto questo", "Sensei ha fatto quello", "Sensei dice cosi",

But nothing about Shakyamuni Buddha and Nichiren Daishonin

The USA should adopt Italy's Eight per Thousand Religious Tax Exemption Law

Unless there are eight members of a given religion per one thousand members of the populace, there will be no tax exemption. Soka Gakkai then will lose its tax exempt status in the United States.

Suicide of a Soka Gakkai Italy member

"You have no idea what I suffered in this association. My name is Stella, I teach letters to San Donato, where the Kanzaki family lived but left some time ago here for mysterious reasons. The Kanzakis are high level SGI leaders for all of Italy. But they literally suck at the human level. In 1990 my best friend (Buddhist) committed suicide because she had psychological problems. I too was suicidal and asked for help for her and me from several members but they treated me very badly. I told them that we wanted to die but totally lacking compassion, Kanzaki avoided me. After she killed herself, I went to a psychologist. I was much better and again I went to Kanzaki to ask for his help for my friends daughter who was entering in the sixth grade. Feeling for her, I asked for help but in return I received insults, malice and mockery. So much so that I then reported the Kanzaki family to the Carabininieri [police] of San Donato. I have many other things to say against this sect. "

Adept of the Soka Gakkai leaves the organization believes that it is devoted to fanaticism. His wife for that reason throws him out of the house and he tries to commit suicide by lighting himself and his wife on fire. [tranlated from the Italian]

Adept of the Soka Gakkai leaves the organization believes that it is devoted to fanaticism. His wife for that reason throws him out of the house and he tries to commit suicide lighting himself and his wife on fire.

That religious sect that is conquering the Basilicata

What is happening to the followers of the Soka Gakkai?

"A man of 59, after a dispute with the partner, took to the streets and set himself on fire, in power: rescued by some police officers, was admitted to hospital in the capital San Carlo with burns in various parts of the body, but is not life threatening The incident occurred near the church of San Giovanni Bosco, the presence of many people: the man argued with the woman and took to the road with a gas can and a lighter in his hand. "This is a statement Ansa 14 December 2013. What is behind this apparent history of" madness of love "?

The man and his partner.  The man who attempted to set themselves on fire was a follower of the religious sect Soka Gakkai, the same as her companion, she is a frequent visitor. He abandons the religious group recently deemed "dangerous and suited to fanaticism." But perhaps not suspect that the adepts of the sect, when someone gets in the way, consider it an "enemy." The companion knocked him out of the house and the spring for exactly this reason. It would seem that cases of separation due to this reason are growing in power and in Basilicata. In first place loyalty to the sect, which becomes reason for living, whatever the cost, even the separation from spouse. Critics believe that the sect face trivial proselytism "as do all those who want to hook up an unfortunate / a with promises, big words and false hopes." Main thing, once joined the organization, is to convince their family, husband / wife, father / mother, children. If you fail in the conversion of the family, never mind, just to understand what the organization is capable of hindering the unconverted and whether or not it accepts the practice of kin. If not interfere is a person who can accept, but if you avoid attacks the practitioner to all the followers of the group to go in that house. It 'important to avoid questions that might put doubts to those who have just started. There should be no doubt.

When your spouse is "the enemy."  Anyone who allows to speak ill of or contradict the mystical grandeur of the law of the Gohonzon and the lighting of the Soka Gakkai practitioners can not be their friend and be isolated in any way. The isolation before hitting the predestined person is very simple and is put into practice through "fellow believers" in which the person has to hit a spouse from credit and confidence. These people give "Guide", that is advice on how to behave. Not acting alone but are accompanied by others that simultaneously make heavy use of "love bombing", made ​​by sms, email and direct conversations aimed to flatter the person plagiarized. This is enhanced with phrases like: "You are the light, you're the most wonderful person in the world, you're the partner / companion of life that I never had, an example of life ...". Result: marriages and families destroyed.

What is the Soka Gakkai?  The Italian Buddhist Institute Soka Gakkai (Society for value creation) in Italy brings together those who follow and practice the Buddhism taught by Nichiren. Peace Culture and Education.But on the websites created by the victims of the sect, that is, those who fight it, we get a different answer.The Soka Gakkai would be a trivial association para-Buddhist type Multi Level. And 'the classic cult of Santa Claus that is dedicated especially to conquer an important slice of consensus through the manipulation of the followers and the society they live in by entering his offices cult members. Critics fierce Soka Gakkai speak of money that run, the purchase of books and objects of worship and costly products from the same organization.Our source tells us of a costly contributions to the heads of the organization.

As you practice Buddhism Soka Gakkai?  The practice in Nichiren Buddhism is divided into two parts: practice for oneself and practice for others. The practice itself is the chanting of Nam-myoho-renge-kyo (Daimoku) and two main chapters of the Lotus Sutra (Gongyo). The practice for others is to spread the message Buddhist (shakubuku) offering to others a tool to improve their lives, it is also a means to develop compassion individual. But others believe that "practice that the sect continues only and is based almost exclusively in the" play "all the time as it is located in a little book that is written in ancient Chinese and Sanskrit (but pronounced in Japanese), would eventually realize the goals land in this life (in full heresy with Buddhism). Of the thousands of existing Sutra sect split up just two chapters of the Lotus Sutra. Essential in this practice is to understand nothing of what is recited but acting and just. Indeed better not ask questions out of place. The Dalai Lama says that instead, while reciting a mantra, it is good to think about its meaning, since the meaning of the syllables, whatever the mantra is great and vast. Reciting a mantra at the speed of light, you do not even have time to think about what you are doing. Stuff stoned.

The supreme leader of the sect . Daisaku Ikeda (1928), is the current president of the Soka Gakkai International E 'a particularly prolific intellectual figure, known even outside of the religious association of which he is president, in particular its proposals for philosophical dialogues with representatives of different culture and science and one of the first theorists of sustainable development. Daisaku Ikeda is also known for the detailed peace proposals, articulated in reflections, ranging from the spiritual to the ecological, economic and political, which annually presents to the General Assembly of the United Nations that has awarded a Peace Award. But even here the opinion of those who believe they are victims of the sect, is different. According to them Ikeda is one of the richest men in Japan. It has great political influence, but it is also a dark character for his past certainly not uplifting and educational. It is referred to by many as a "self-centered personality, a thirst for power and money." A man whose "purpose in life is peace" but that with the money of his disciples has tackled the politics of his country massively to the face of Buddhism. In short, Ikeda is the Master.

What promises the Soka Gakkai?  Seven of the rising sun, as the Soka Gakkai, make use of a strongly messianic message inserted in the religious conception of Japan, which is above all earthly, very concrete and tied to this world. It promises a long life, full of joy and health. Health which, in theory, you should get with the therapeutic power of the maximum leader of the sect, repeated constantly: "Everyone can get now and in this time the happiness"

The criticism of sectarianism.  The Soka Gakkai was in Italy included in the report of the Central Directorate for police prevention "Religious sects and new magical movements in Italy" written in 1997, which states, in general, that is "doctrines and ritual practices often far removed from denominations of origin ", and adding in particular that in the case of" Buddhism of the Soka Gakkai, based on the Lotus Sutra, the highest Buddhist, the Dalai Lama, does not recognize it. " In France a parliamentary committee in 1995 and 1999 (Guyard Report), and in Belgium a similar inquiry committee of the House of Representatives, in 1997, included the Soka Gakkai in a list of religious organizations which, according to commissions, to be construed as "sects" in all respects. The criticism of "sectarianism" have moved even by former members who accuse the Soka Gakkai of anti-social activities and human rights violations. Specifically, former members denounce: the lack of democracy within groups Soka, with every decision made ​​from above and a system of internal powers and responsibilities similar to the multilevel-marketing; the distance from orthodoxy traditional Buddhism and also the Buddhism of Nichiren; the exploitation of the working staff of the followers and the incentive to buy items sold by Soka Gakkai; mechanisms of mental conditioning analogous to those of other sects.

"The smile is the cause not the effect of happiness" -- Daisaku Ikeda

No DaiGohonzon no Butsudan in Nichiren's time Namu Myoho renge kyo Nichiren

Famous and oft recreated 13th century painting of Nichiren on his deathbed surrounded by his disciples. It shows Nichiren lying in front of a Gohonzon.... Yikes! Oooh! Slander! The Gohonzon is not in a Butsudan!

Question: What happened to the six foot tall five hundred pound DaiGohonzon, "the reason for Nichiren's advent in the world"?*

Answer: They were hiding it in Nichiren's two hundred square foot hut.

*According to Fuji School [SGI/NST] theology"