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Thursday, May 22, 2014

"It is silly for you to spout off that this is Buddhism" -- SGI member

 "The Great Teacher Nan-yueh in his Shi Anrakugyo states, ‘If there should be a bodhisattva who protects evil persons and fails to chastise them... then when his life comes to an end, he will fall into hell along with those evil persons. '"The meaning of this passage is that, if a practicioner of Buddhism should fail to chastise evil persons who slander the Law but give himself up entirely to meditation and contemplation, not attempting to distinguish between correct or incorrect doctrines, provisional or true teachings, but rather pretending to be a model of compassion, then such a person will fall into the evil paths along with the other doers of evil. Now a person who fails to correct Shingon, Nembutsu, Zen and Ritsu adherents who are slanderers of the Law and instead pretends to be a model of compassion will meet just such a fate as this." 

Robert SGI: It is silly for you to spout off that this is Buddhism.

Mark: You claim that Nichiren's and Nan-yueh's views aren't Buddhism. Would you then tell us that the Lotus Sutra and Great Nirvana Sutra is not Buddhism. I guess that nothing is Buddhism if it doesn't agree with SGI's worldview:

"And so to unbelieving persons, rouse them to accept this Law. By so doing, young men of good family, you will acquit your debt to the Tathagatas." Lotus Sutra, Chapter 27, page  440, translated by Kern

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They are like the icchantikas who "do not hear, do not believe, and cannot discriminate." (Great Nirvana Sutra: T.12.724c7 = T. 12.481 b27-28)

Robert SGI: Wars always start because of religious differences between what one group believes to be evil vs. a differing viewpoint. People begin to "chastise" one another and the hatred begins. 

Mark: Do you not chastise your child when he endangers himself? The Tientai sect killed 30,000 Nichiren Buddhists, but at last count not one Tientai warrior monk was killed by a Nichiren Buddhist. We shouldn't chastise the Tientai believers? If you can't take the heat of Buddhist discussion and dialogue, I suggest you get out of the kitchen.

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