Based on Daisaku Ikeda's opinion, an SGI member writes: "It appears to me you are now saying that Allan was fundamentally correct. The point is that non-Buddhist teachings like Christianity do not have much power. They certainly cannot lead to permanent happiness, but they pose no threat to Buddhist teachings. I believe it is the Daishonin's teaching to be magnanimous and through friendship let non-Buddhists discover the greatness of True Mahayana Buddhism. In other words, employ the practice of Shoju." - Tom U
Based on the The Lotus Sutra, “Good men, [the Thus Come One observes how among living beings there are] those who delight in lesser teachings, meager in virtue and heavy with defilement.”, and Nichiren's opinion, employ the practice of shakubuku.
Based on the The Lotus Sutra, “Good men, [the Thus Come One observes how among living beings there are] those who delight in lesser teachings, meager in virtue and heavy with defilement.”, and Nichiren's opinion, employ the practice of shakubuku.
Shakubuku has no basis in Buddhism whatsoever. Your leap in literacy abour how the Buddha makes practitioners sick is sick and absurd.
ReplyDelete“Good men, [the Thus Come One observes how among living beings there are] those who delight in lesser teachings, meager in virtue and heavy with defilement.”
ReplyDelete"Your leap in literacy abour how the Buddha makes practitioners sick is sick and absurd." -- warped shakubuku
ReplyDeleteBuddha did not cause his sick children to grieve in order to awaken them in Chapter 16? The problem is not shakubuku [the forceful practices], it is a less than deft application of shakubuku.
ReplyDeleteThere are no Hinayana or Mahayana teachings, only Hinayana and Mahayana practitioners.
ReplyDelete[All] The Dharma is flawless and inconceivable,
Leading all to engage in spiritual practice:
After he [Sariputra] completely eliminated afflictions and
Achieved the flawless and inconceivable Dharma
He comprehended the Buddha's intent to
Enable sentient beings to
Uncover the Buddha's understanding and views
And attain perfect awakening at the
Place of enlightenment.
The Buddha gave teachings
According to capabilities and circumstances
He gave provisional teachings that
Contained wondrous principles
But he only used the great vehicle Dharma,
Which is flawless and inconceivable, to lead people
He enabled sentient beings to
Uncover the Buddha's knowledge and views and
Attain perfect awakening at the
Place of enlightenment
There are monks and nuns
ReplyDeletewho behave with overbearing arrogance,
laymen full of self-esteem,
laywomen who are lacking in faith.
Among the four kinds of believers, the likes of these
number five thousand.
They fail to see their own errors,
are heedless and remiss with regard to the precepts,
clinging to their shortcomings, unwilling to change.
But these persons of small wisdom have already left;
the chaff among this assembly
has departed in the face of the Buddha’s authority.
These persons were of paltry merit and virtue,
incapable of receiving this Law.
This assembly is now free of branches and leaves,
made up only of those steadfast and truthful.
And yet the 5000 while guilty of arrogance and laziness were not guilty of slander. The didn't try to distort the one-vehicle with nonsense like forceful-practices or change the text to assert their "authority."
DeleteYou should reread Chapter 3 of the Lotus Sutra and get back to us.
ReplyDeleteFourteen slanders according to the Lotus Sutra
ReplyDelete"To those who are haughty (1) and lazy (2)
And to those with self-centered views (3),
Do not preach this Sutra.
Common shallow people (4),
Deeply attached to the five desires (5),
Who on hearing cannot apprehend (6),
Do not preach it to them.
If any people do not believe in (7)
And vilify this Sutra (10)
Then they cut [themselves] off [from] all
The Buddha-seeds in the worlds;
Or if again they sullenly frown (8),
And cherish doubts and perplexities (9),
Listen to my declaration
Concerning the recompense of such people's sins:
Whether during the buddha's lifetime
Or after his extinction,
If there be any who slander
Such a Sutra as this,
Who, seeing those who read and recite,
Write or hold this Sutra,
Scorn and despise (11), hate (12) and envy (13) them
And bear them a tenacious grudge (14).
Concerning the recompense of such people's sin,
Listen now again:
After their lifetimes end
They will enter into the Avici hell...." (Lotus Sutra Chapter 3, The Parable of
the Burning House)
The Burning House is about attachment to lesser vehicles which has nothing to with avici hell or slander. From your playbook, "Try again" MR.
DeleteYou mean 14 slanders according to Nichiren and you should understand 3.
ReplyDelete"After their lifetimes end
ReplyDeleteThey will enter into the Avici hell." -- LS Chapter 3
"The Burning House has nothing to do with slander" -- ohgee
ReplyDeletehttp://www.nichirenlibrary.org/en/lsoc/search?languageNavi=English&bookTypeNavi=LSOC&resultFlgNavi=1&searchOptionsNavi=Texts-Contents&searchOptionsNavi=Texts-Background&searchOptionsNavi=Texts-Notes&searchInputNavi=slander&searchSubmit=Navi&findtext=&languageNavSp=English&bookTypeNavSp=LSOC&resultFlgNavSp=1&searchInputNavSp=&findtext=
"Upholding" is not distorting it's intent, let alone influencing others under a guise of Buddhism.
ReplyDeleteDoes not follow from the discussion.
ReplyDeleteRead your own links from LS and discover That slander consists of (slighting those who uphold, copy, ...) Rather than someone who disagrees with you or practices something else. Nichiren is the one who slighted bodhisattvas at Lotus Dharma Assembly. It was Nichiren who "restricted" practitioners from 6 paramitas. No wonder Nichiren followers rarely mention the word, "Bodhisattva. "
ReplyDeleteThe Buddha was relieved the 5000 left because they had potential to slander by not understanding and then transmitting their misunderstood views to others.
Further more, it is Vulture Peak, not Eagle Peak. At least get your blog title right.
You can't reject and slander Nichiren and uphold the Lotus Sutra. You are the slanderer and are destined to the Avici Hell.
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