Here's the thing - they're using the term "mentor" wrong:
"For the record, there is no such thing as a Mentor/Disciple relationship – it confuses two very different situations. This (top link in bottom list) is a pretty straightforward explanation of how a healthy mentor/mentee relationship works. They have a personal, face-to-face relationship, primarily designed to benefit and encourage the mentee to his or her own success (in business or personal endeavors). Other than a sense of satisfaction, the mentor gains nothing."
"A mentor/mentee relationship is, by its very nature, a temporary one. It may morph into something else at some point, but the mentee moves on."
"This site (2nd link in bottom list), while it primarily uses the word “guru” rather than “master” discusses that relationship: The differences are clear – the disciple is beholden to the guru and, while the guru may act as a teacher of sorts, the primary purpose is to create a follower. The guru gains tremendous sway over the disciple, and the latter is expected to follow unquestioningly.
The ... guru/disciple [relationship] ... is intended to be permanent, life-long, and with a profound power imbalance. Rather than encouraging independent thinking and success the disciple will always tied to the guru in subservience and service. Clearly, the guru gains the largest benefit from the arrangement.
Hmmm...sound familiar?? See which of these fits the SGI model best:
"A successful mentor/mentee relationship should be fulfilling and beneficial for all involved. Mentee and Mentor: Remember that people come from diverse backgrounds and experiences. Get to know each other on an individual basis."
“One of the most typical types of celebrity stalker is someone who genuinely believes that they have some kind of relationship with their target. Some even believe that they are married to the celebrity in question whom, they imagine, could even be sending them coded messages through the television set."
"These are people who are lacking in a sense of self," says Dietz. "They lack a feeling of security with their own status in life, and so they try to attach themselves to people who have what they most want. Which, superficially, might seem to be the money, the glamour, the fame. But it's really the *identity* that they lack."
You can even sit in front of a PHOTO of YOUR mentor!! You can talk to the photo of your mentor, tell the photo of your mentor about the kind of day you had, ask questions of the photo of your mentor! Don't be surprised if the conversation tends to be a bit one-sided, though.
Srsly, can anyone explain to me how this experience of being next to a *photo* is supposed to be just like Ikeda's experience of being with an actual *person*?
"The ultimate desire of a genuine mentor is to be surpassed by their disciples." SGI Source
"When President Ikeda passes away, he will still be our mentor." Source
Sheesh. Make up your minds already.
"The idea that there is only one master is a completely new idea, not a vision inherited from a master. It simply suits Ikeda to imply that he is the master of all."
And, since "mentor" is so veryveryvery important, WHO was Makiguchi's mentor?? Anyone? Bueller?
"I'd like to ask another question - if Ikeda was such a great mentor, why has no one (ever) come forward to boast about having been shakubukud by him? Because you know that would give the person YUUUGE bragging rights."
Here's the thing - they're using the term "mentor" wrong:
ReplyDelete"For the record, there is no such thing as a Mentor/Disciple relationship – it confuses two very different situations. This (top link in bottom list) is a pretty straightforward explanation of how a healthy mentor/mentee relationship works. They have a personal, face-to-face relationship, primarily designed to benefit and encourage the mentee to his or her own success (in business or personal endeavors). Other than a sense of satisfaction, the mentor gains nothing."
"A mentor/mentee relationship is, by its very nature, a temporary one. It may morph into something else at some point, but the mentee moves on."
"This site (2nd link in bottom list), while it primarily uses the word “guru” rather than “master” discusses that relationship: The differences are clear – the disciple is beholden to the guru and, while the guru may act as a teacher of sorts, the primary purpose is to create a follower. The guru gains tremendous sway over the disciple, and the latter is expected to follow unquestioningly.
The ... guru/disciple [relationship] ... is intended to be permanent, life-long, and with a profound power imbalance. Rather than encouraging independent thinking and success the disciple will always tied to the guru in subservience and service. Clearly, the guru gains the largest benefit from the arrangement.
Hmmm...sound familiar?? See which of these fits the SGI model best:
"A successful mentor/mentee relationship should be fulfilling and beneficial for all involved. Mentee and Mentor: Remember that people come from diverse backgrounds and experiences. Get to know each other on an individual basis."
“One of the most typical types of celebrity stalker is someone who genuinely believes that they have some kind of relationship with their target. Some even believe that they are married to the celebrity in question whom, they imagine, could even be sending them coded messages through the television set."
"These are people who are lacking in a sense of self," says Dietz. "They lack a feeling of security with their own status in life, and so they try to attach themselves to people who have what they most want. Which, superficially, might seem to be the money, the glamour, the fame. But it's really the *identity* that they lack."
"Become Shinichi Yamamoto", anyone??
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So *IKEDA* got to spend time and do fun things with HIS mentor; here is what the rest of us are supposed to settle for:
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Look at that! YOU get to stand next to a PHOTO of YOUR mentor!
http://chantforabetterlife.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/victorleong1.jpg?w=300&h=172
You can even sit in front of a PHOTO of YOUR mentor!! You can talk to the photo of your mentor, tell the photo of your mentor about the kind of day you had, ask questions of the photo of your mentor! Don't be surprised if the conversation tends to be a bit one-sided, though.
Srsly, can anyone explain to me how this experience of being next to a *photo* is supposed to be just like Ikeda's experience of being with an actual *person*?
"The ultimate desire of a genuine mentor is to be surpassed by their disciples." SGI Source
"When President Ikeda passes away, he will still be our mentor." Source
Sheesh. Make up your minds already.
"The idea that there is only one master is a completely new idea, not a vision inherited from a master. It simply suits Ikeda to imply that he is the master of all."
And, since "mentor" is so veryveryvery important, WHO was Makiguchi's mentor?? Anyone? Bueller?
"I'd like to ask another question - if Ikeda was such a great mentor, why has no one (ever) come forward to boast about having been shakubukud by him? Because you know that would give the person YUUUGE bragging rights."
Sources: https://www.reddit.com/r/ExSGISurviveThrive/comments/8ms18l/mentordisciple_links/
much of what sgi/nst taught as buddhism was just japanese culture. we was robbed !
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