Someone wrote: "thought experiment : what if someone chants daimoku everyday / believes in MYOHO RENGE KYO, but has no idea who Shakyamuni or Nichiren are, would you say “ there is no benefit “? In other words,is Myoho Renge Kyo the PERFECT teaching or not ? Is it all inclusive of the Lotus Sutra or not ? Was it intended for the @ ignorant masses in Mappo or not? Id give more credit to SGI for introducing and fostering chanting for many , making a very profound teaching RELEVANT to our daily lives in the 21st century. Being a Buddhist scholar is not a requirement for attaining Buddhahood, on the contrary intellectual approach is often detrimental to developing faith."
Question:"thought experiment : what if someone chants daimoku everyday / believes in MYOHO RENGE KYO, but has no idea who Shakyamuni or Nichiren are, would you say “ there is no benefit “?
Answer: Why don't you search out what Nichiren has to say about this matter? I believe that he would respond that NOT ALL DAIMOKU IS EQUAL:
"How great is the difference between the blessings received when a sage chants the daimoku and the blessings received when we chant it. To reply, one is in no way superior to the other. the gold that a fool possesses is no different from the gold that a wise man possesses; a fire made by a fool is the same as a fire made by a wise man. HOWEVER, there is a difference if one chants the daimoku while acting against the intent of this sutra".
Those men and women cited by Nichiren who act against the intent of the sutra, despite chanting Daimoku, today, are principally Soka Gakkai and NST leaders and priests. Nichiren is not talking about neophyte Bodhisattvas who merely chant the Daimoku without the baggage of SGI's mentor/disciple and NST's Sole Transmission Through the High Priests. Certainly, he is not talking about his disciples and believers who chant the Daimoku. As I have said dozens of times, my criticisms of the Soka Gakkai, Nichiren Shoshu and Nichiren Shu are those members and leaders practicing for years, entrenched in the false SGI/NST principles and doctrines, not those beginning their practice who know no better who gain benefit from their pure faith and practice. Besides, why don't you ask the Soka Gakkai leaders and Priests the exact same questions?
I have hundreds of instances of SGI members and leaders and Nichiren Shoshu priests and members, especially Daisaku Ikeda and his Soka Spirit members and leaders trashing other believers who chant Daimoku. Here are dozens for you to read, some from 2017 (and then there is your up to date Soka Spirit Page)...
"Each and every one of Shakyamuini's words tells us that it was right for SGI to separate itself from the ruinous [High Priest] Nikken sect. The SGI is advancing straight along the "path to glory." The Nikken sect is sliding irrevocably down the "path to ruin." I want to make this perfectly clear to you all." Daisaku Ikeda, World Tribune, September 13, 1993
"... we must deeply understand that the heritage of the universal Law of Nam-myoho-renge-kyo can only be transmitted through organizations [SGI] joined in unity, based on faith in Nichiren Daishonin's Buddhism and the principle of the oneness of master and disciple." November 9, 1992 World Tribune
"Today the only true inheritor of the Daishonin's way of master and disciple is the Soka Gakkai. I declare this unequivocally. That's why the Soka Gakkai is so important. Without our organization, the True Law would be utterly lost. There would be no way to save humanity. That is why supporting and defending the Soka Gakkai are the same as defending and advancing the Daishonin's Buddhism." Daisaku Ikeda, World Tribune, September 14, 1992
"Members of the Minobu school of the Nichiren sect chant daimoku. They have the Gosho Their recitation of the sutra also includes the Hoben and Juryo chapters. And, in the Shoshinkai, which consists of ex-priests of Nichiren Shoshu , and the portions of the sutra they recite and the daimoku that they chant are identical to the practice we observe. Though their religion may seem the same as ours, they lack the single, unbroken heritage of the law received directly from Nichiren Daishonin. If one's faith is not based on this line of inheritance, it is worthless to embrace any Gohonzon, for no benefit will be forthcoming. That is to say, "Without the lifeblood of faith, it would be useless to embrace the Lotus Sutra." " Daisaku Ikeda, Buddhism in Action, vol 3, p 254
"We, ourselves, cannot produce the Gohonzon. Since it's the enlightened entity of Nichiren Daishonin, no one has the authority other than the successive high priests who have been the sole heirs to the heritage of the True Law. We take no part in this. Therefore, the objects of worship inscribed by those in the Butsuryu and Minobu factions [of the Nichiren Shu sect] are absolutely powerless. They are worthless because they are fake. In fact, they contain the power of evil spirits. That is why they are dangerous." Former SGI president, Josei Toda, Daibyaku Renge, 98, p. 98.
"...the Gohonzons that we recieve are also the living flesh of the Original Buddha whose eyes have been opened according to the principles of the actual Ichinen Sanzen in the passages hidden in depths of the Juryo Chapter and the true attainment of Buddhahood by plants and trees. Why would this very Gohonzon not be the true aspect of the eye opening of wooden and painted images? This is absolutely not found in the heretical sects outside of Nichiren Shoshu, and is a profoundly secret doctrine which only Nichiren Shoshu possesses." Daisaku Ikeda Soka Gakkai Daibyaku Renge
"Thus, Nichiren Daishonin teaches us to treat the SGI members who work for Kosenrufu with greater respect than anyone else, and we must seat them high above esteemed priests." Daisaku Ikeda, World Tribune, March 14, 1994
"The faith of "not begruging one's life," life based on the Gohonzon ...such faith exists only in the Soka Gakkai. Only the Soka Gakkai possesses "action" aimed toward the goal of kosen-rufu, and correct "guidance" leading to happiness." Daisaku Ikeda, World Tribune, Jan. 17, 1994
The BYLAWS OF THE SOKA GAKKAI:
SOKA GAKKAI HATING ON ALL WHO CHANT THE DAIMOKU WHO ARE NOT SGI
Omens come and go. Fukushima (Japan, Soka Gakkai International Headquarters), global warming (entire world), Nuclear weapons (entire world) and drought (Santa Monica SGI headquarters) are here for up to a million years (Fukushima whose CEO is a top SGI leader). These are not omens. If we are to believe Nichiren, they are due to distorted and slanderous Buddhist beliefs and practices. Read the Rissho Ankoku Ron (Establishing the Correct Law for the Peace of the Land) which talks of reasons for the calamities, not the Omens which come and go.
How hypocritical of you to admonish me and not your own members and leaders, especially your Sensei.That you can't see it or refuse to see it, you are either blind, a liar, or duplicitous. If you did bring it up to your leaders, you would be excommunicated. Are you afraid to admonish them so you pick on a lone individual with little power and influence? Do you know what that is? That is the World of Animality. Read all of the websites I supplied and weep. Namu Myoho renge kyo
Question: In other words, is Myoho Renge Kyo the PERFECT teaching or not? Is it all inclusive of the Lotus Sutra or not ? Was it intended for the @ ignorant masses in Mappo or not?
Answer: Yes, it is the perfect teaching and, although innumerable meanings derive from the one Law, SGI's mentor/disciple, NST's Sole Transmission Through the High Priest, SGI's and Nichiren Shu's interfaith, for example, are neither one of the innumerable meanings of the one Law nor are they inclusive of the Lotus Sutra. Most importantly, SGI and NST have a different Three Treasures and Three Great Secret Laws than Nichiren, despite them chanting Myoho renge kyo.
Question and commentary: Was it intended for the @ ignorant masses in Mappo or not? Id give more credit to SGI for introducing and fostering chanting for many , making a very profound teaching RELEVANT to our daily lives in the 21st century. Being a Buddhist scholar is not a requirement for attaining Buddhahood, on the contrary intellectual approach is often detrimental to developing faith."
Answer: Yes, it was intended for the ignorant masses of Mappo. However, if you give credit for SGI of introducing Myo Ho Ren Ge Kyo to many then you must give credit to SGI for introducuing the slanderous teachings of Guru Yoga, the Nichikan No-honzon, Lotus Sutra interfaith, and slander of all others who chant Namu Myoho renge kyo who are not SGI. Besides, Nichiren teaches that is not due to external sources that people encounter Namu Myoho renge kyo, it is due to the "auspicious causation" of the beliver. You must also give credit to the SGI for destroying the faith of 95% of all those who encountered Namu Myoho renge kyo through the SGI. Do I have to remind you that more than 600,000 Gohonzons were bestowed by the SGI in the USA and no more than 35,000 SGI members remain?
Nichiren was a Buddhist scholar. Regarding an intellectual approach of the Men of Learning, such as Shariputra, Shakyamuni Buddha and the Lotus Sutra predicts Buddhahood for them. Would you deny them Buddhahood? Do you believe that I have no faith because I study the Lotus Sutra and the writings of Nichiren while SGI members who study the Human Revolution are those with faith? Then, you are a fool. Were the SGI teachings relevent to the daily lives of the believer, why have so many hundreds of thousands abandoned the Lotus Sutra and Namu Myoho renge kyo? Those who believe in the Gohonzon, the Eternal Buddha, the Lotus Sutra, and Nichiren Daishonin's teachings will NEVER abandon the faith.
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